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Is a car a good gift?
Under the right circumstances it is, but you'd better know what the recipient likes.
Several questions come to blogger Abigail Perry’s mind when she sees one of those commercials with a car in the driveway topped by a big bow. You know -- where the wife goes outside and there it sits, all nice and pretty.
Abby (the daughter of MSN Money "Living With Less" columnist Donna Freedman) wonders how the car got there without the wife noticing. Did they bring it in the middle of the night? Did they check with the husband to make sure she’s asleep? “Does that mean the husband gets a walkie-talkie and gets to say things like ‘The bear is in hibernation’ and ‘Roger’ and ‘Over’?” Abby writes at I Pick Up Pennies.
OK, that’s the silly stuff. But Abby also raises some good questions. Is a car really an appropriate holiday present? No, she says, and here’s why not -- from the hypothetical wife’s point of view:
- When you bought me a car, you spent several thousand of our money on a down payment. Are you sure I’m OK with that? (Besides, you had to be sneaky to do it -- not cool when we co-mingle accounts.)
- You, sweet lips, have increased our debt. That’s not a gift; it’s an obligation. “You're not really buying a car. You're buying debt,” Abby writes, “albeit in a very attractive form. (And most debt won't get 0 to 60 so quickly! Unless you're talking about a credit card's APR.)”
- You probably didn’t get a very good deal. If the salesman knew it was a gift, you lost bargaining power. “It also means you'll be hard-pressed to deny a lot of the extras. No one really wants to say, ‘Merry Christmas! Look how generous I am! Oh, but on-board GPS was extra so I told them not to bother,’” Abby says.
What do you think? We think the gift of a car would be nice, if your spouse or significant other makes enough money so that the purchase doesn’t adversely affect your household budget. Better yet if the SO pays cash.
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Several of Abby’s readers shared their thoughts:
- Kids going away to college will always appreciate a car, even a used one.
- Adults said they'd prefer to be involved in the purchase.
- If you’re giving a car, make sure you know what the recipient wants. “D in Kansas” recounted how her father-in-law years ago gave her MIL a minivan for the big 4-0 birthday -- after trading in her cherished Mercedes. They later got a divorce.
Here’s a lovely scenario from Christina:
My dad has purchased a car to surprise my mother several times over the years for Christmas or her birthday, but I don't pretend that they are the norm as he always pays cash for it from an account that she probably won't be looking at.
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Maybe you don't remember the "good old days" but I do and I love modern cars because they're so reliable they're almost a commodity and you get a lot more for your money.
American cars have actually passed European cars in reliability and are a safe buy now. I bought a Dodge in 2005 and except for two blown fuses have had zero problems with it.
I remember when cars died at 70K and almost never made it to 100K. Now a car with 100K is young. The Japanese changed all that by making planned obsolescence too costly for the American brands to continue with it.
We were impressed when the family car was still running good at 45K even though the transmission went out once and there was a lot of rattling.
"pohater" - did it ever cross your mind that maybe the wife might have a job of her own. Shocking as it may sound women are allowed to work and earn money!!
Wow, people who assume that all children are alike amaze me. How can people say that just because someone is given a car they are or will become a spoiled brat? Every child is different. Each is shaped by the many people and things in their life. Each parent has to find a middle ground between needs and wants.
My husband and I gave both of our children a car when we could afford it and they had a need for it. We raised them to understand the value of a dollar and not to worry about what the other received on a particular date, but rather to consider the circumstances surrounding the giving of the item.
Our daughter received her car when she was 16. She was an honor roll student who had a part time job and she go off work late at night during the summer. She also got a cell phone to go along with the car in case there was trouble. She never once miss-used the phone and did not have an accident until she was 19 (and that happened in broad daylight after she dropped off unwanted clothing at a charity – not after a party). She is now 24, has a Masters degree in accounting, and has begun the researching her first new car purchase. She is one of the most financially responsible young adults I know.
Our son did not receive his car until he was 18. He did not work in high school so there was no need for him to have a car of his own. We asked him if he wanted one at 16 so he could find a job but HE felt he was not responsible enough and needed to concentrate on his schoolwork. When there was a need, he borrowed a car. He is 22 now and I’ve asked him if he resents not getting his car until 18. He says he understood then and still has no problem with it.
With a little luck and a lot of hard work, we raised two kids who got what they needed (and a lot of what they wanted) and were never spoiled by it. We are debt free and have healthy savings and retirement accounts. Just to show how not spoiled or greedy our kids are, a relative recently gave us $7000 to pass on to our children and each of them told us to keep the money to help cover college expenses. We hope we never have to ask our children for help but are quite sure that if we ever need help they will do what they can, just as we did while they were growing up.
If it is paid off in full, yes. If the person receiving it has to make payments, no! Also, no good for a teenager, no way! My kid got and old 1998 p/u truck and loves it. It runs ( most of the time) and he is lucky as hell to have it! BRAT!! Dad got it , not me!
I think it is extremely unfair for anyone to assume that I am the same person now at 43 that I was back when I was 16. People do learn from their mistakes as they mature. My parents and I have discussed the subject of the car I turned my nose up at back then and we actually laugh about it. My dad says I was a brat and he is probably right but they love me no less ..I am still their daughter. There were no hard feelings over it. My dad actually made money on reselling it - so he was happy. It turned out just fine.
Thanks hkaur for the support ;)
Every time I see those lexus commercials for the holidays where they give someone a car w/ a big fat red ribbon, it makes me wonder who the target audience is! No one I know can afford to give that kind of gift. I hear of celebs who lavish each other w/ expensive cars, but that's what they do. Normal working class people have a budget of $50 per person, if that!
No, a car is not a good gift, just as many folks have mentioned - what about the additional/later/ongoing costs?
It reminds me of the year someone gave me a ready to use cell phone. All signed up to a plan, etc.. With the caveat that I'd take over the monthly bill after the first three months. Some gift! The balance of the contract cost considerably more than the initial investment or I had the choice to pay the 'fee' to cancel the contract and let the phone collect dust. I never even said I wanted a cell phone and you know what, as hard as it is to believe in 2009, I really can live without one. Gifts with conditions are just not gifts. I think even a dictionary could verify that.

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