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Is a car a good gift?

Under the right circumstances it is, but you'd better know what the recipient likes.

Posted by Karen Datko on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:53 PM

Several questions come to blogger Abigail Perry’s mind when she sees one of those commercials with a car in the driveway topped by a big bow. You know -- where the wife goes outside and there it sits, all nice and pretty.

 

Abby (the daughter of MSN Money "Living With Less" columnist Donna Freedman) wonders how the car got there without the wife noticing. Did they bring it in the middle of the night? Did they check with the husband to make sure she’s asleep? “Does that mean the husband gets a walkie-talkie and gets to say things like ‘The bear is in hibernation’ and ‘Roger’ and ‘Over’?” Abby writes at I Pick Up Pennies.

 

OK, that’s the silly stuff. But Abby also raises some good questions. Is a car really an appropriate holiday present? No, she says, and here’s why not -- from the hypothetical wife’s point of view:

  • When you bought me a car, you spent several thousand of our money on a down payment. Are you sure I’m OK with that? (Besides, you had to be sneaky to do it -- not cool when we co-mingle accounts.)
  • You, sweet lips, have increased our debt. That’s not a gift; it’s an obligation. “You're not really buying a car. You're buying debt,” Abby writes, “albeit in a very attractive form. (And most debt won't get 0 to 60 so quickly! Unless you're talking about a credit card's APR.)”
  • You probably didn’t get a very good deal. If the salesman knew it was a gift, you lost bargaining power. “It also means you'll be hard-pressed to deny a lot of the extras. No one really wants to say, ‘Merry Christmas! Look how generous I am! Oh, but on-board GPS was extra so I told them not to bother,’” Abby says.

What do you think? We think the gift of a car would be nice, if your spouse or significant other makes enough money so that the purchase doesn’t adversely affect your household budget. Better yet if the SO pays cash.

Several of Abby’s readers shared their thoughts:

  • Kids going away to college will always appreciate a car, even a used one.
  • Adults said they'd prefer to be involved in the purchase.
  • If you’re giving a car, make sure you know what the recipient wants. “D in Kansas” recounted how her father-in-law years ago gave her MIL a minivan for the big 4-0 birthday -- after trading in her cherished Mercedes. They later got a divorce.

Here’s a lovely scenario from Christina:

My dad has purchased a car to surprise my mother several times over the years for Christmas or her birthday, but I don't pretend that they are the norm as he always pays cash for it from an account that she probably won't be looking at.

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Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:14:04 PM
so I received a mini van as a gift from my loving husband as a gift for my birthday. Now a little over a year later we are in the middle of a divorce. He is leaving me with nothing including the van that he bought me to replace my old beat up run down truck. I loved my old truck but per his request I got rid of it to make room for my new van. Now I am left with no car. No a car is not a good gift. Most of the stories I have heard are similar to mine. Husband buys a a good reliable car as a gift, which usually means a car with payments. Then the couple spilts and the gift is taken away or the person who received the gift ends up having to pay for something they can't afford and would have never bought themselves.   
Monday, November 30, 2009 1:31:23 AM

Doubting-Skeptic

 

Maybe you don't remember the "good old days" but I do and I love modern cars because they're so reliable they're almost a commodity and you get a lot more for your money.  

 

American cars have actually passed European cars in reliability and are a safe buy now.  I bought a Dodge in 2005 and except for two blown fuses have had zero problems with it.

 

I remember when cars died at 70K and almost never made it to 100K.  Now a car with 100K is young.  The Japanese changed all that by making planned obsolescence too costly for the American brands to continue with it. 

 

We were impressed when the family car was still running good at 45K even though the transmission went out once and there was a lot of rattling.

Saturday, November 28, 2009 9:40:46 PM
Although I am now almost 60, I remember the pain of my parents 'buying' me a car.  I was responsible for the payments, the insurance, and the upkeep - and I didn't even get the thrill of shopping for my very first car.  I gave my son a car that was all paid for (it was definitely a beater) but it was all free.  I even paid the insurance.  A gift that comes with monthly payments and obligations is not a gift.


Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:49:19 AM

"pohater" - did it ever cross your mind that maybe the wife might have a job of her own. Shocking as it may sound women are allowed to work and earn money!!

Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:44:11 AM

Wow, people who assume that all children are alike amaze me.  How can people say that just because someone is given a car they are or will become a spoiled brat?  Every child is different.  Each is shaped by the many people and things in their life.  Each parent has to find a middle ground between needs and wants.

My husband and I gave both of our children a car when we could afford it and they had a need for it.  We raised them to understand the value of a dollar and not to worry about what the other received on a particular date, but rather to consider the circumstances surrounding the giving of the item. 

Our daughter received her car when she was 16.  She was an honor roll student who had a part time job and she go off work late at night during the summer.  She also got a cell phone to go along with the car in case there was trouble.  She never once miss-used the phone and did not have an accident until she was 19 (and that happened in broad daylight after she dropped off unwanted clothing at a charity – not after a party).  She is now 24, has a Masters degree in accounting, and has begun the researching her first new car purchase.  She is one of the most financially responsible young adults I know. 

Our son did not receive his car until he was 18.  He did not work in high school so there was no need for him to have a car of his own.  We asked him if he wanted one at 16 so he could find a job but HE felt he was not responsible enough and needed to concentrate on his schoolwork.  When there was a need, he borrowed a car.  He is 22 now and I’ve asked him if he resents not getting his car until 18.  He says he understood then and still has no problem with it.

With a little luck and a lot of hard work, we raised two kids who got what they needed (and a lot of what they wanted) and were never spoiled by it.  We are debt free and have healthy savings and retirement accounts.  Just to show how not spoiled or greedy our kids are, a relative recently gave us $7000 to pass on to our children and each of them told us to keep the money to help cover college expenses.  We hope we never have to ask our children for help but are quite sure that if we ever need help they will do what they can, just as we did while they were growing up.

Saturday, November 28, 2009 3:07:54 AM
I bought my wife a minivan that had an incredibly low number of miles, but had serious mechanical damage.  She knew it was broke down and was the one who found it and wanted it.  I spent 2 years spare time rebuilding the engine, transmission, frame, suspension and body, electrical and such.  She received it the moment I was done with all the repairs.  I put nearly $3k into a vehicle only worth $1600 bucks.  It's not the money, its the thought.  She puts gas in it, pays the insurance, and when something goes awry she lets me know so I can fix it.  A gift has to be received in the way it is given.  She knew about the gift for 2 years before she could do anything with it.  She drives it every day and loves it.  When people ask about it (these are notorious for falling apart) because of the "Like a new car condition" she lovingly tells them that her husband spent 2 years spare time making it new again for her. 
Saturday, November 28, 2009 3:05:09 AM
I pray my husband doesn't get me a new car for Christmas. We have different wants and needs in our vehicles and I am not sure he could choose for my needs or wants. Also, just wait til after January 1st so you don't have to pay higher taxes next year. You pay for what you own on that date in my state. I also think you should wait til March or April to buy a car. That's when dealers know you have money to spend from income tax returns.
Friday, November 27, 2009 11:23:23 PM

If it is paid off in full, yes. If the person receiving it has to make payments, no! Also, no good for a teenager, no way! My kid got and old 1998 p/u truck and loves it. It runs ( most of the time) and he is lucky as hell to have it! BRAT!! Dad got it , not me!

Friday, November 27, 2009 9:59:11 PM
I don't think the question should be that "Is a car a good present?".  I think the question should be that "Is a GOOD car a present?".  There aren't too many good cars out there anymore.  The Japanese and Korean cars are starting to prove that they are rusting too fast and becoming unreliable.  German and Swedish cars are way too expensive for what little they offer.  Italian cars (when they get here) will not be all too popular because of lack of style.  American cars have fallen so far behind their competitors  that it's almost impossible for them to catch up.  Sure, there are "good" cars out there, but you have to pay through the nose and give up your first born to get one.  It isn't worth it.
Friday, November 27, 2009 9:48:20 PM
I would take a car any day.  Any car as long as it was legal, ran well, safe and mine!!!:-)
Friday, November 27, 2009 9:10:18 PM

I think it is extremely unfair for anyone to assume that I am the same person now at 43 that I was back when I was 16. People do learn from their mistakes as they mature. My parents and I have discussed the subject of the car I turned my nose up at back then and we actually laugh about it. My dad says I was a brat and he is probably right but they love me no less ..I am still their daughter. There were no hard feelings over it. My dad actually made money on reselling it - so he was happy. It turned out just fine.

 

Thanks hkaur for the support ;)

Friday, November 27, 2009 8:59:47 PM
My parents never bought me a car and I returned the same favor to my son. He had to work to earn the money to buy it, he pays his insurance, pays the repairs etc. I think it has made a better kid out of him, more responsible and more appreciative. I hope he does the same for his kids.
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Friday, November 27, 2009 8:54:45 PM

Every time I see those lexus commercials for the holidays where they give someone a car w/ a big fat red ribbon, it makes me wonder who the target audience is! No one I know can afford to give that kind of gift. I hear of celebs who lavish each other w/ expensive cars, but that's what they do. Normal working class people have a budget of $50 per person, if that!

Friday, November 27, 2009 8:41:35 PM
I always picture the wife buying the car for the old man as a present, making the first payment, then asking the poor schmuck to help with the future payments.
Friday, November 27, 2009 7:46:51 PM

No, a car is not a good gift, just as many folks have mentioned - what about the additional/later/ongoing costs?

 

It reminds me of the year someone gave me a ready to use cell phone.  All signed up to a plan, etc..  With the caveat that I'd take over the monthly bill after the first three months.  Some gift!  The balance of the contract cost considerably more than the initial investment or I had the choice to pay the 'fee' to cancel the contract and let the phone collect dust.  I never even said I wanted a cell phone and you know what, as hard as it is to believe in 2009, I really can live without one.  Gifts with conditions are just not gifts.  I think even a dictionary could verify that.

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