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6. "Looking for the cheapest gas in town? Try the Internet."

You can't actually buy gas online, but Web resources can help you find the cheapest fill-up in town. Among them, GasPriceWatch.com and Gaswatch.info help people track pump prices. More comprehensive is GasBuddy.com, which includes a network of 174 local sites, complete with maps and message boards that tally gas price by ZIP code.

"People are frustrated by the variation in the price of gas," says GasBuddy.com co-founder Jason Toews, and they're using the Internet to take control.

It has worked wonders for Sue Foust. Every day, as she passes roughly 10 stations on her commute across Tucson, Ariz., Foust notes their prices, then posts them on TucsonGasPrices.com, a local affiliate of GasBuddy.com.

Every four days or so, when she needs to fill up, she checks the prices others have posted in her area. It turned out the Shell station she used to frequent is one of the most expensive in the city. Now she fills up elsewhere. "I really do feel like I'm saving money," she says.

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7. "It's a gallon when I say it's a gallon."

It's hard to know whether you're getting all the gas you paid for at the pump. But in some places there's a very good chance you're not. State or county authorities check pumps for accuracy, but in some areas it can be years between inspections. Arizona, for example, has only 18 staff members to check the state's 2,300 stations.

That means stations there can expect a visit once every three to four years, according to Steve Meissner, a spokesman for the Arizona Department of Weights and Measures. In 2005, 30% of the more than 2,000 complaints the department received were valid, and it levied $167,000 in fines. The good news is that it's often easy to catch the most common problem: Older pumps in poor repair may begin charging you for gas before you've pumped it. Check the meter to make sure it registers $0.00 before you begin and doesn't start charging you before the fuel is flowing.

8. "I might gouge you on a soda, but my coffee's a real bargain."

With margins on gas taking a hit -- in 2006, fuel sales made up 71% of revenue but only 34% of gross margins -- stations are increasingly looking to their convenience stores for income. Given that fact, you'd assume the average Kwik-E-Mart would be a terrible place to buy just about anything. But that's only partly true.

Stock that usually sits on the shelf does tend to be vastly overpriced, so if you forgot ketchup on the way to a barbecue, you can bet you'll pay a lot more for it at a gas station than you would at a supermarket, says David Bishop, the director of convenience retailing for Willard Bishop Consulting. What about popular beverages? You'll pay more for a 20-ounce soda at a gas station than you would for a 2-liter bottle in a supermarket; water and energy drinks similarly tend to have high markups.

But there are bargains to be had: Some high-volume goods, such as cigarettes and beer, are often competitively priced at gas stations. And a cup of coffee goes for a fraction of what you'd pay at Starbucks.

9. "If you're having car trouble, you're in the wrong place."

The days of the local gas station staffed with a skilled mechanic have all but come to an end. Most station owners have swapped car lifts for beverage cases and carwashes, or anything else that brings in a high-volume stream of income and traffic, says Dennis DeCota, the executive director of the California Service Station and Automotive Repair Association. The more people who pull over for a soda, the greater the chance they'll top off their tank and vice versa, the thinking goes. Few owners want the hassle of a business such as car repair, even if it earns the same amount of money as a convenience store.

In addition, repairing cars is increasingly expensive, and the ill will and potential liability from a fix-it job gone wrong are more of a headache than many owners are willing to risk. Today a service station can require $100,000 worth of diagnostic equipment -- a significant investment. It's a risky venture with little payoff, says Southern California station owner Arabshahi. In fact, Arabshahi removed the service station from one of his locations after he bought it.

"I don't have a service station because I am not a mechanic," he says. "If he messes up a job, then it's my name on there."

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10. "You might not need regular gas to run your car."

Cars run on gasoline, but not all cars need traditional gasoline to run. In fact, 6 million cars on the road today (mostly from U.S. manufacturers and built since 1998) are "flexible fuel" vehicles that can run on E85, a fuel that is 85% ethanol and only 15% gas.

When Minneapolis resident John Schafer bought a car in late 2001, he chose a Chevy Tahoe because it's a flexible-fuel car. Since then he's filled up almost exclusively with E85. The big difference he's noticed: about 15% fewer miles to the gallon. But it's a drawback he's willing to put up with.

"I'm committed to the technology," Schafer says. "With E85, it burns cleaner, so it won't pollute as much."

Although E85 generally costs less than regular gas, there is some concern that it may grow prohibitively expensive as demand outpaces supply: By 2006, ethanol was being used more than just in E85; it also composed 15% of every gallon of gas sold. Supplies of ethanol are likely to grow thin, which could drive up the price of E85. And even die-hard Schafer says he won't buy E85 if it starts to cost more than gasoline.

This article was reported by Jim Rendon for SmartMoney.

Published June 17, 2009

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Friday, June 19, 2009 9:50:36 AM
Some valid points but some incorrect and oversimplified as well.
All fuels are not the same, similar yes.  Fuel is typically adjusted for seasonal conditions 4x per year, some discounters/independents sell out of season fuel and that may cause starting/drivability issues. I feel that brand name stations tend to be more regulated and monitored. E85 provides about  25-30% less mileage without the corresponding price reduction. Some cons to using E85  are cold starting issues, potential deterioration/corrosion from water retention in the fuel, having to refuel more often and availability. Most vehicles that are  E85 capable are not optimized for either fuel and mileage suffers. I like the fact it is cleaner burning, but currently there are better alternates.
Friday, June 19, 2009 1:13:30 PM
Arizona's 18 inspectors for 2300 stations comes out to a little more than 127 stations per inspector.  And they can only check them once every 3 years?  How long does it take to check one station?  One inspector should be able to do at least two stations a day, meaning in 220 work days per year that all 2300 should be checked more than once a year. 
Friday, June 19, 2009 11:26:12 PM
I'm not sure if this is true, but I heard that if you go to a gas station and the pump is out of the cheap gas, by law they have to charge you the cheap price for the expensive gas. They don't tell you that, but I live near a gas station that was always out of gas and after bringing that up, they were never out of gas again.
Monday, June 29, 2009 2:52:42 PM
Don't pick "debit" if you use your debit card at the pump. Run it through as "credit" and you won't get charged that extra fee. You could do that pretty much anywhere that charges fees for debit cards.
Monday, June 29, 2009 2:56:24 PM
It's funny, but I never get asked whether I'm using a Debit or Credit card at *any* of the gas stations I use and I *only* use my Debit card.  I've never had my bank charged extra; it always goes through at just the amount that I've been charged.  I also always 'pay at the pump.'  Does that make a difference?
Monday, June 29, 2009 2:57:48 PM
I guess it depends on the bank as to how much they hold on your debit card. I don't have that problem with PNC. Also, if I use my card as a debit, using my PIN, Thorntons gives 3 cents off a gallon, always. I even get the discount on E85, which my Taurus will run on. Also, I don't get charged a fee to use my debit, anywhere.
Monday, June 29, 2009 3:04:34 PM
If I use my debit card i am not charged any fees! If i use credit there is always a dollar fee from station!!
Monday, June 29, 2009 3:06:14 PM

If I choose credit I am always charged a dollar fee!! If I choose debit I never get charged a fee!!

Monday, June 29, 2009 3:07:59 PM

just to let you know, i happen to work at a bank and we do not set the "hold" amount on your debit cards when you pay at the pump. anywhere around where i live, for example...the credit card companies that the gas stations use set the hold amounts, whether its a dollar or a hundred dollars.... the only thing we have a say in is how long that hold is placed on those funds.... so before you pay at the pump with a debit card, you may want to find out how much that particular gas station usually holds funds for so that you don't overdraw your bank account....

just a little tidbit for you all....

thanks

Monday, June 29, 2009 3:08:33 PM
What a moron...many of this are not true. Please get the real facts straight when writing this article. You're misleading these people that read this nonsense article. If you don't work on the bank, please research or at least ask the bank. In Regards to #4 article, bank do not hold $20 (or more)  put aside. What make more sense is - if you care more about rewards, your credit cards gets better points. Don't forget to pay it off at the end of the month. if you do decide to use debit card, use it as "credit" ot debit. I work as representative for credit union - all i can say is go ask your financial institution. Every financial institutions are different.
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