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MP Dunleavey

Women in Red

7 women, 5 years of conquering debt

Financial success stories abound for the original Women in Red, and their triumphs have inspired thousands. Here's a look at where their journeys have led.

By MP Dunleavey
MSN Money

Five years ago, a small band of women volunteered to get naked in the name of financial progress and allow me to chronicle the ups and downs of their lives here in this column.

The group's nickname was the Women in Red. Somehow the ordinary money struggles of those seven women -- Beth, Carole, Brice, Lyndsey, Tricia, Stephanie and Anna -- inspired thousands of other women to pay off their debts, save money, slash their grocery bills, deal with money issues in their marriages and generally get a grip on their budgets.

In 2007, that original troop graduated. Where are they now, at the Women in Red's fifth anniversary? Here's what they gained and what we can all learn.

Shopaholic no more

I can say it now: Lyndsey, who joined the Women in Red when she was 26, started out as a bit of a problem child.

Despite a good salary and no student loans, she was saddled with $12,000 worth of pure lifestyle debt, from socializing and shopping beyond her means.

She was in a tough place then, and she seemed to make money decisions based on appearances, not her best interests. Just before Lyndsey departed the Women in Red in 2007, she had taken out a $30,000 loan to buy, um, a used Mercedes. Ouch.

Now 31, Lyndsey sounds like a new woman. She reconnected with an old college buddy -- and fell in love with him. They relocated from the Washington, D.C., area to a slower region with a lower cost of living. And she has kept up a particular habit instilled by the Women in Red: saving.

"I still have that ING account, I've kept up with my 401k, and I always get the match," she says.

Even better, she uses her savings for emergencies instead of relying on Visa.

That said, after five years, Lyndsey still has about $4,000 in credit card debt, and she still has the Mercedes. But she is financially smarter: "Now that I work from home, I think: 'Man, what was I doing? I could have saved a TON of money.'"

Lyndsey now makes smart spending decisions that she couldn't or wouldn't when she was younger. She typically cooks at home with her boyfriend, who exerts a positive, frugal influence. (See "Why savers and spenders marry.") And she's less impulsive.

"A friend is having her bachelorette party in Vegas, but I really can't afford to go, so I'm not," she says.

Who says you can't teach a young pup new tricks?

Single mother of 3, now free

Of all the Women in Red, Tricia had the most dramatic debut in this column. We got an avalanche of mail as readers responded to Tricia's woeful tale of divorce and debt, as well as to her spunky determination to change her life.

Today, Tricia has a new beau, a new condo they share and a great job. Two of her kids are in college, and her eldest is newly engaged and working as a mechanic. Plus, she is still plugging away at her own college degree.

Most momentous of all: Tricia has paid off all her credit cards. "I only have $600 left on my car loan, which was originally $14,000." And although she did sell her house in order to buy the condo with her partner, none of the proceeds of that sale went toward her debt.

"I paid it all off myself," she says, with satisfaction you could smell a mile away.

Tricia says the Women in Red influenced her life in three profound ways:

  • Camaraderie. "It was so important for me to know that I wasn't the only one out there who needed help," she says. "The Women in Red helped me to feel less alone."
  • Perspective. "I finally came to the realization that you don't have to live paycheck to paycheck. Seeing the other side, through the Women in Red, and realizing that I don't have to go back there, has meant a lot to me."
  • Valuing the future. "My salary fluctuates because part of my pay comes from performance bonuses, but no matter what I always contribute to my 401k. I will not waver on that."

What I love about Tricia is that she puts some muscle into the old saying: Slow and steady wins the race.

No longer waiting to be rescued

When Brice joined the Women in Red, she was our "Sex and the City" single writer gal: too much debt, too many pairs of shoes and a freelance income that was hard to manage.

Like the other women, today Brice is a bit older and a lot wiser -- perhaps because she has been hit the hardest by the plummeting economy.

Many of the publications that once gave her regular assignments have closed, and her income has plunged (a blow that many of us in media have felt). She still struggles with the long-standing problem of how to manage a roller-coaster income.

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The big difference between where she was then versus now, Brice says, is her attitude. Once upon a time, she had the fairy tale hope that Mr. Right would show up.

Today, Brice is focused on taking care of herself: She is entertaining a serious job offer, getting advice from a business coach and focusing on concrete steps that will get her from point A to B to C in the personal, professional and financial areas of her life.

Brice credits the support of the Women in Red for helping her pay off half of her original debt of $7,000 and making savings a priority -- even though right now she has had to put those two things on hold.

Still, she's proud of the progress she has made and now realizes that once the economy improves, her priorities will be in the right place. "I had always wanted take charge of my finances, but the accountability and camaraderie of the Women in Red made me actually do it."

Continued: 100 pounds lighter -- and happier, too

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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:21:56 AM
Kudos to you who couldn't pay off 7k or 12k in 5 years as single working women. That can be done in 5 years with just he change that falls between the couch cushions and car seats. pretty damn pathetic. good thing the women in red were there to make them feel ok about staying in the red. Some of you obviously did well. eliminating 30k in debt while raising children. hats off to you. This is not the special olympics and everyone does not get a medal. What about you M.P. ? you have made some colossal blunders when it comes to finances and tried to gloss them over. (buying a second house without selling your first. catastrophic). Maybe the women in red should try something new ... getting a professional involved. Not reading the latest book, or taking advice from an MSN columnist who would probably be better suited to a gossip column, but a real pro... then maybe your associates can figure out how to pay off 7k in 60 monthly installments of about $130 each (including interest).
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:24:13 AM
Can someone please get this columnist out of the "money" section and into something more appropriate like "lifestyle"
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:35:08 AM

Wow! What great results! At 33, I'm just now about to see a financial counseler (and actually TAKE her advice!) to manage my $25,000 in "lifestyle debt" and my mortgage. I was blessed to meet a great man this summer who has forced me to own up to my money mess. He minces over pennies and makes me rethink my so called "needs".  But I am soooo thankful for his positive fiscal influence. He even inspired me to open an investment account for the first time. MP Dunleavy, bless you for tackling this issue. Women In Red should become a national club.

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:59:54 AM
The lack of curriculum-based financial education is especially harmful to women, who are the major focus (at all ages) of marketing ads.  Comparing equal $ for $ salaries, women: save less, have higher credit card balances, contribute less to their retirement accounts, and lose earnings if they take time off to have children. Columns such as this one are helpful to many women who have never been taught the basics of financial planning. Thanks, Ms. Dunleavey!
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:45:02 AM
This group has completely changed my way of financial thinking.  I have taken better control of my finances and hope to be able to buy a house within the year.  While we are by no means "sitting pretty" or "living the good life," we are able to pay our bills, save a little, and prepare for the future.  I believe that everyone has a different way of paying down their debts, whether it is $7,000 in five months or five years.  Every person's financial situation is different and there is no guarantee that even $130 per month, as insignificant as it may seem, could be possible.  We are blessed enough to have the assistance of my parents at times; otherwise, that could be a stretch for us.  I thank the Women in Red for continuing to give me the motivation and determination to re-shape my view of our financial situation.  Those two ideals, coupled with the comraderie and accountability, have given my family a renewed ability to Take Total Financial Control.  So, thank you.  Thank you to M.P., thank you to the girls (and guys!) of the Women in Red who have become more than just a shoulder to cry on and laugh with, but who have also become friends.
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:15:02 AM

Hi Fatrat. You clearly don´t know what the WIR is all about, do you?

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:28:49 AM
Thanks, MP, and ignore the fatrat that wandered in and is attempting to steal the cheese. We appreciate you. And the message here is what I have long said: women are not supposed to spend time awaitin' the rescue from the proverbial knight on a white horse. It's never been someone else's problem to save us. The financial tools are out there; the problem is, that we have long ignored them, or considered talking about money a dirty subject.
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:37:44 AM

Thank you so much for posting this update. You and the women that you highlight are truly an inspiration! Keep the information coming, you are planting seeds of wisdom and it's up to us to maintain the garden.

 

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:58:42 AM

ah, the difference 5 years makes.  The best quote here is 'Man, what was I doing? I could have saved a TON of money.'  There's nothing more expensive than regret.

Money really is about lifestyle and behaviours and making sustainable choices through life and living amidst resultant benefits and consequences.

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:10:27 AM

A question for ThaFatrat: Why do you spend your time reading something that you so obviously feel is beneath you? I would think you would have better things to do with your time.

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