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New wave of foreclosures coming?

The FHA tried to prop up the housing market, but it might have caused more foreclosures in the process. With video updates.

Posted by Kim Peterson on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 12:14 PM

Home-buying guide © Ingram Publishing / SuperStockFor the past year, the Federal Housing Administration has backed home loans that most big lenders wouldn't touch.

The FHA has helped people get loans who otherwise would be in a pickle as credit markets have dried up. But at the same time, the FHA has insured loans for people who couldn't afford them and has artificially propped up the housing market.

Now the FHA's woes continue to mount. About 9% of FHA borrowers have missed at least three payments (up from 6.5% a year ago), and experts say that means a new wave of home foreclosures is coming, according to The Washington Post.

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The problem is that the FHA asked for as little as a 3.5% down payment for a home purchase (lenders like JPMorgan Chase, for example, turned their nose at anything less than 20%).

And the FHA allowed sellers to pay for some of the down payment as well, meaning buyers had no "skin in the game," as the Post puts it (that policy has ended). So it was especially easy for buyers to walk away.

Bottom line? In its efforts to keep the housing market going, the FHA might have inadvertently caused a new crush of foreclosures.


The FHA is not a lender, but it insures lenders when mortgages go sour. And it's had to pay out so much that its cash reserves are dangerously low -- far lower than the mandated minimum.

Things have become so bad that the FHA is expecting to pay out on one out of every four loans made in 2007, the Post reports. That's the worst rate in decades.

But things are looking up for the FHA. The lenders working with the agency became pickier last year, giving loans to people with higher credit scores. The hope now is that those loans won't have such a high default rate.

And the FHA is finally asking for higher fees from borrowers as well as for a minimum 10% down from borrowers with low credit scores.

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Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:20:32 PM

Taypayer 1

 

If I bought a new house today, I can guarantee you that I would not still be living in the same house when I retire or even 20 years from now (nor will most people that buy a house today). Eventually, I would sell and at that point my gains and losses would be realized. Who is to say my house would be worth more at that point? No one knows that for certain. And, unfortunately, you can't always conveniently decide when you will need to sell your home.

 

Even if my intention was to stay in my house until retirement, doesn't mean that I would be able to. Sometimes life's realities, ie., layoffs, divorces, pregnancies, marriages, medical conditions, deaths, etc., don't always fit right into the perfect little plan of how we dream for our life to turn out. So then what? You have to sell, hope you can sell, hope you don't end up having to A.) put money with your mortgage to rent at market rate (know lots of people doing this right now) or B.) pay out of pocket to sell your house for less than owed if bank refuses to do a short sale (personal experience) or C.) lose your home in foreclosure.

 

Many, many people are going through that right now. People already in retirement. People who were dealt one of life's realities, because unfortunately no matter how well you plan out your life, life doesn't follow any rules set out on paper. So, what are their rents going to be? How are they any better off now than the person who rented all along. What do they have to show for? Having to re-enter the workforce?Lossed investments put into their home, ie., painting, new decks/patios, lawn treatments, landscaping, appliances, window treatments, carpet cleaning/replacements, floor refinishing, satellite installations, roofing, insulation, alarm systems, etc.,etc.,etc., that they can't take with them?

 

So, what will my rent be when I retire? I have no idea. At 30, I still have time to think about it. But in the meantime, I'm having to start over financially and re-coup all my hard earned savings that I wasted throwing at a mortgage on a house that I wasn't able to keep. But it was worth it, because now I'm able to save way more (for cash reserves and retirement) than I was able to while owning. I've already re-couped the money I had to fork over just to get rid of my house. So, maybe oneday, if I'm lucky and smart enough about my savings, I will be able to buy my retirement home in CASH with the money I saved from renting. And if not, hopefully, I will at least be able to better fund my retirement and more able to afford whatever rent I might have.

 

In any case, the money I am saving now belongs to me, and I can take it with me whenever and wherever I move to, regardless of what the market conditions might be at the time. It will not be tied up in something that could be taken away at any moment, simply because I fall on hard times and miss a few payments on my mortgage, or property taxes (if paid off), or HOA fees, despite having had a perfect payment history.

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:11:54 PM
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Abraham Lincoln

A house divided against itself cannot stand.
Abraham Lincoln

I guess Pres. Lincoln was right.
Sad

A friend is one who has the same enemies as you have.
Abraham Lincoln

And anyone here who is lower to middle income, if you have an income, has the same enemies, whether you realize it or not.
We have to stop arguing amongst ourselves and fix the mess. This is exactly what the politicians and corporate America want to happen, division among the people. If you're a Republican, Democrat, Independent, or indifferent, by sniping at each other, you are just doing what the politicians have been doing for years, and the problems just grow.

Do you really want to be like them? Maybe some of you already are. Or do you really think they are going to fix things for middle Americans? Do bank bailouts ring any bells? They are going to f*** everything up and then take their money and ours to bail themselves out. Sh*t rolls downhill. Wake up, they don't give a crap about middle America!
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:01:59 PM
That's right Hub, always blame somebody else. Why take any personal responsibility if you don't have to. Blame the rich , it's their fault.
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:35:14 PM

Taxpayer! ...

 

It's unfortunate that it's always SOMEONE else's fault.  There is no sense of personal responsibility.

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:28:56 PM
Thanks for the comment... however, I am in the situation I am in because I never "jump into anything".  Not sure if you noticed but I mentioned that I could have bought (and been given the credit for) this same house 4 or 5 years ago for 2 million dollars.  I have been shopping for a home and actually visited a model of this builder 5 years ago.  This home was priced in the 1.2 - 1.3 million dollars.   I was trying to purchase this home now for $850,000 which means the price has already reduced $400,000+.  That is a decrease of 33%!  Now, I hear what you are saying but I highly doubt the cost of this home will drop another 20%... Maybe 2 -3% but when you investigate into a product you will learn that there is a true cost in order to actually build a home.   Huge conglomerates that package together "cookie cutter" homes can pad some profits because everything they make is bought and built in bulk.  This custom builder has only built about 3 homes in my area in the past 15 months.  If the profits are not there, he simply won't build.  No one will work for a cost and then sell a product at a loss no matter how many car salesmen say they do;)  Still, even if this market causes another drop of 2 - 3% of the cost of this home... Since that is only about $25,000 at most I am willing to lose out on that since I am already saving $375,000 since a few years ago.  I am not trying to buy a "dream" home.  I am trying to buy my home.  One that I can afford to pay off in 5 years.  5 years from now this same house could actually bear equity... homes could still do that if purchased properly.
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:26:44 PM
I'm just saying, take it while you can, however you can get it. Scamming and gaming the system are acceptable ways of playing the game now. Wall Street teaches us that every day. If there's a way for you to have a $50,000 dollar car and drink Dom P and take nice vacations, you go for it. The minimum success in the new American economic landscape is to say you had these things at least once in your life. That's what America is about now, that's the whole point- get all you can, for as long as you can, and it doesn't matter how you're getting it.
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:16:51 PM
Why is everybody so hard on the subprime buyers and Community Reinvestment Act types? Banks walk away from mortgages on properties they buy all the time, when it makes business sense. Just read about a bunch of office buildings Wells Fargo walked away from in SF. Judeo-Christian morality- that Hank Hill decency and honesty and forthrightness-has no place in capitalism. Subprime buyers who walked away or got forclosed played the game as brilliantly as the Wall street bankers who got the taxpayers to cover their losses. They got the good life for a while, and that's all that matters. If you're a decent, honest person-sorry sucker! But please, keep playing by the rules, after all, none of it would be possible without your tax dollars. Don't forget-get it done before April 15th!
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:57:06 PM
Renter , what will you be paying in rent when you retire?
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:28:50 PM
Sorry, total with crappy school should have been $2990. with total savings lowered to $14000 - $28000. Don't know why edit won't work.
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:21:43 PM

Over the course of just 1 year, I've saved $14,000 - $28,000 renting vs. owning.

 

I think everyone's situation will differ. And I don't think there is any conclusive answer that will work for ALL situations, BUT I don't think my situation is that rare or unique.

 

My new house that I rent is 2620 sq. ft. single family house 6 years old, 2 levels, 3 large bedrooms + huge bonus room, 2.5 baths, formica counters, white laminate cabinets, stock lighting, stock carpet, hardwood and ceramic tile floors, 1 whirlpool tub, 1 gas fireplace, 2 car garage, large fenced backyard, great neighborhood, great schools (my kid rides bus to public school) Rent = $1650 mo, includes cable + property taxes paid by landlord + renters insurance paid by landlord + lawn treatment + HOA paid by landlord, high-end shopping and restaurants 5 miles down the street. Gym membership w/ swimming pool = $70/mo. Total=$1720/month.

 

My old house that I owned was 2700 sq ft townhouse

brand new, 3 levels, 3 huge bedrooms, 3.5 baths,  granite counters, designer and recessed lighting, cherry cabinets, 2 whirlpool tubs, berber carpet, hardwood, and ceramic tile floors, 1 gas fireplace, 2 car detached garage, tiny fenced yard, (equally) great neighborhood, poor schools (paid additional $1000/mo to send kid to private school) Mortgage $2950/mo, included property taxes, property insurance, HOA fee (HOA paid for lawn treatment), swimming pool in the community, high-end shopping and restaurants in the community. Cable = $40/month. Total= $3990/month. If I sent my kid to the crappy school we were zoned to. Total = $2990/month.

 

And because I'm sure you're wondering, a comparable townhouse in the same neighborhood went up for rent for $2300/month. But that's the beauty of renting, I don't have to rent a house in the same area. I have the FREEDOM TO MOVE around in order to save money.

 

Unfortunately not ALL of that savings is going into my pocketbook because I make less money now, which is part of why I had to move. BUT, I AM able to maintain my same lifestyle on less income. And if my income ever goes back up, that's even more money I'll be able to watch grow in savings.

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:40:58 PM
fdasfdsa, you left a few things out about buying. I bought my 1,800 sq ft house 19 years ago for $125,000 (30 year fixed @5%). My payment is $671  a month plus taxes of $1,100 a year ( can't go up more than 3.5% per year) and insurance of $1,700 a year (it's high here in Florida). I have 11 years left on my mortgage. I've been paying around $1,000 a month for everything less utilities and in 11 more years it will drop to about $350 per month. How does that compare to someone who has rented for the same amount of time and what they will be paying going forward. Not to mention the privacy, freedom ( I can work on my car and boat in my yard), and night time quiet I enjoy.
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:40:56 PM
After reading many of these comments I have to ask:

If no one buys and everyone rents, where would the rentals come from?
Oh I know, the government can build and or buy all the apartment complexes and homes and rent them to us, and the conservative do-gooder's who save and stash all their money for the unknown future... imagine a country with no investors, buyer's, or speculators...zero risk takers, only super-rich people WITH CASH can buy! Sounds vaguely familiar?
Nice idea, in theory.

Maybe we can take over unused Military housing, all of you folks who own houses, unable to pay for them and under water, start applying immediately. Stop the presses...

Please don't anyone start a small business unless you have cash, savings of 30-40 years, after taxation and maybe by the time you are 60 + you can open a restaurant, dental office, car lot, service station, nail salon, hardware store, etc...certainly is a limiting concept.

Careful what you wish for folks, you may just get it!



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Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:21:00 PM
Thanks, I'll get the "snowball" book. I had not heard of it before
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:13:21 PM

my towers feel like concrete boots!!! help me Obama!!!!!!

Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:06:50 PM
fadasfdsa - the amount you pay in interest is not static.  your numbers show non-equity building expenditures to be about the same for renting and owning (less for owning if you factor in tax deductions).  so, it all comes down to mobility.  i agree, most renters do not invest the difference if there is one. 
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