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SuperModels7/31/2009 12:01 AM ET

The recovery puzzle's missing piece

Investors, if you think US fortunes continue to drive the world economy, keep your money out of this market. But if you expect Asia and South America to lead the recovery, jump in now.

By Jon Markman
MSN Money

U.S. and global economic data have begun to diverge so greatly in recent months -- with sustained weakness here and a surge of strength overseas -- that it's a wonder we're all on the same planet.

The differential is more than just a matter for academics to discuss at the faculty club, because investors large and small need to decide, pretty much immediately, which set of data to believe.

Those who believe that American consumers, banks and factories are still the main engine of growth in the world are taking profits on recent gains in stocks, shying away from risk and husbanding cash. Those who believe instead that rising consumption and industrial might in Asia and South America are more important are going in the opposite direction, diving into risk with abandon.

We'll know who's right in the fullness of time, but in the near term, investors do not have the luxury of waiting. They must anticipate the future based on limited data, act now, and prepare to face the consequences if they're wrong. That makes this summer one of the most intense stretches of soul-searching for professionals in the past two years, as it will make and break careers, reputations and fortunes for years to come.

In a moment I'll tell you why data and psychology now favor bulls, but let's look at the story from the perspective of active practitioners rather than economists -- two private wealth managers who actually have to make decisions on behalf of clients, rather than just spout off with no consequences.

Worries and economic warts

Eric Sprott, a veteran fund manager and researcher based in Toronto, believes the buyers are in la-la land when it comes to interpreting economic data emanating from the world's largest economy. A few of his salient points include:

  • A prolonged U.S. retail sales slump, highlighted by a same-store sales plunge of 32% last month at Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF, news, msgs), shows that consumers are in no mood to buy goods even if factories were ready to make them. A plunge of 5.1% reported by U.S. shopping malls in June was worse than the dire 4.5% forecast.

  • Unemployment is not just the worst since 1983 -- 29% of the unemployed have been looking for work more than six months; the number of people taking unemployment benefits has reached a record 6.88 million; and six people are looking for work for every job opening, a fourfold increase from just a year ago.

  • With consumers on the sidelines, U.S. industry is on the brink. Factories used only 68.3% of available capacity in May 2009. The lowest prior level since the Depression was 70.9% in December 1982.

  • Despite the recent uptick in construction, new-home sales are down 73% from their 2005 high, and the cumulative loading of rail cars is down 19.2% from 2008's depressed levels.

  • Price/earnings multiples on U.S. stocks, reflecting investor sentiment, fell only to a multidecade average at 16 rather than to the single-digit lows seen in prior deep recessions.

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Sprott concludes by listing three scenarios for his clients: If S&P 500 earnings stay constant at $63.03 and price-to-earnings multiples hit cycle lows at 6 due to worsening sentiment, he sees the Standard & Poor's 500 Index ($INX) falling to 378. (It closed at 987 on Thursday.) If earnings are halved, as they have done three times in the past 30 years, and the P/E stays constant at 16, the S&P 500 would fall to 506. If earnings are halved and the P/E hits cycle lows, he gets an S&P 500 value of 189 -- a true, old-school depression.

Sprott says only buoyant investor sentiment is keeping the market up, as earnings have not improved. "Keep it simple, stupid," he says. "Investing is and always has been about the real economy, and this market is ignoring the hard data."

Continued: Globalization's other face

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:57:03 PM

Just dandy. The US will slip to 3rd world status and we're supposed to cheer asia/south america. The "global" companies mentioned will continue to outsource jobs from the US and the de-industrialization of our country will be complete. If you want to buy a stock try ABC - ammo/bullion/c-rations. The hard times are coming folks.

 

Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:51:31 PM
Mostly people talking about outsourcing jobs outside of USA, this may be an issue depending how much you are outsourcing and what are you receiving back. I think even before this, the serious issue is a big unbalance of massive cash going out from USA to China. China is sitting on top of 3 trillion dollars of US currency landing back to US. If this goes on for another couple of years, the republic of China will gobble up USA and you will not even realize it if you don't realize now. How foolish you can be? I hope policymakers in US will understand it soon.
Friday, July 31, 2009 3:25:01 AM
Sprott's scarier article is the one previous to that one just quoted:

The Solution is the Problem

One may indeed argue that his current article "cherry-picks" data points, but it's hard to argue against his contention in this article that a dollar crisis is looming.

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:07:54 AM
Is this an advertising site for merchandise?
Friday, July 31, 2009 7:13:07 AM

First, when you see spam here make sure you click on the report abuse button.   We've got to get rid of this junk.   This helps Microsoft adjust their filters to eliminate it.

 

I tend to be optimistic and have been buying into funds all through the down cycle.   Hopefully, it will pay off in ten or fifteen years but I don't think there will be any quick rise.   We are really in the dumps right now and how can we compete with slabor camps all through Asia.  I mean, they treat people like animals over there.  

 

Did you know China has an average of 80,000 huge riots each year?  Some of the people are fighting back against inhuman treatment.   Good for them.   Still, we would be foolish to underestimate the power of what is really a modern day fascist state.   China is like Germany in the thirties:   very impressive developments, industrial might, a big Olympic display, and immensely cruel leaders who crush and murder people for simply speaking.   Over the last 50 years they have murdered more of their own people than Hitler killed in WW2.  That's a big number folks.  What kind of nation murders it's own people?

 

Scary.

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:44:11 AM

SiropDerable

 

I agree  with your analysis.  There is no easy solution.  the brick wall will be hit eventually and interest rates will go sky high, unless we start a strategic big war that frightens foreign money to come to the USA for safety. Not something I would recommend {the war that is}.  As more and more of our citizens enter dire straits and if they resort to violence ,  martial law and a fascistic state is inevitable {something that I fervently hope can be avoided. }

 

There is one hope though. A Ghandi  Martin Luther King type PEACEFUL PROTEST {and it must be peaceful to ward off the fascists}  calling for a reconstruction of our society along humanitarian lines.

 

I believe this is your first post.  Stick around, there is much intelligent  discussion going on at MSN MONEY.

 

 

This could be an intelligent discussion with many informed contributors.  The advertising of merchandise might prevent that.  I wish there was a way to personally eliminate this stuff.  Let those who want it have it and those who do not want to scroll thru it be able to eliminate it.

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:50:40 AM

David_abc

 

Welcome.

Friday, July 31, 2009 8:39:00 AM

I think the pertinent question is, "Are there more shoes to drop?"  The current market reflects both the tangible and intangible impact of recent profit reports, rate of unemployment, housing data, etc.  If we believe the crisis has unwound to a point where confidence in the world economy will once again spur growth in debt markets, than we can probably expect the markets to grow from here.  However, if we believe that there is still too much bad debt in the market that still needs to be dealt with before growth can proceed, than we should expect another, perhaps even more severe, correction.

 

I personally believe that there is still too much bad debt, but I don't know if we'll deal with it now, or continue blowing bubbles to put it off for tomorrow.  Actually, I'm pretty certain that our institutions (i.e. Fed, Congress) will continue blowing, but it remains to be seen whether there's enough surface tension (i.e. consumer confidence) to really encourage bubble formation.  Personally, I'm sitting out of the publicly traded equity markets until I see something that makes me believe we're back to sustainable debt levels.  I bet that's going to be a really, really long time.

Friday, July 31, 2009 10:08:15 AM

to the spam advertisers:

 

do you idiots really think that anyone reading this blog is interested in clicking on your links???

 

perhaps you ought to focus your efforts on your target audience...not people interested in having a discussion about the economy...IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Friday, July 31, 2009 10:15:55 AM
If you research the statistics quoted my Mr. Markham, you will find it's all ****.  Japan's exports are not up 20% (they're down 37.5% from last year and there's no end in sight), Korea's GDP is not up 9.7% (except, possibly, if you utilize accounting gimmicks such as calculating the numbers based on spot exchange) and China's numbers are provided by their government.  Please realize that these apparently very reasonable individuals (Markham and Jubak) are disinformation blowhards.  All you have to get on a plane and scoot on over to those scumponds to see how many lightyears away they are before they approach anything resembling a normal economy and place to live.  ALL THIS DRIVEL IS FLORIDA SWAMPLAND AGAIN.  BUY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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