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Extra8/18/2009 12:01 AM ET

Should fund fees be tied to performance?

After taking big hits on their portfolios last year, investors still had to fork over hefty management fees, magnifying their losses. If companies share in our gains, shouldn't they share our pain? See who said yes.

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By MarketWatch

Putnam Investments is lowering costs for its mutual funds by reducing management fees. It's cutting some expense ratios and tying others to performance, adjusting pricing breakpoints and, in general, moving toward a structure that industry observers believe is ideal.

The move raises two big questions: What took so long, and why hasn't every big fund company done this?

Putnam takes a positive step

Some of its latest fee changes echo moves made by Fidelity. The question is, why aren't more fund companies following suit?

It's a question worth considering for investors who are dissatisfied with their funds. While there was no avoiding the market decline last year, high fees added insult to injury. Too many investors settle for the "industry average" on costs when there's ample evidence that many providers could swallow a pay cut, remain competitive and earn your trust and money by delivering improved investment returns.

Unless you invest with one of the low-cost leaders -- and companies such as Vanguard and Fidelity frequently are not available to average investors working for small employers with limited assets in their company retirement plans -- you'd be thrilled to get the kind of cost break that Putnam came up with.

For proof, substitute the name of your fund company for "Putnam" in the following:

Effective Aug. 1, Putnam dropped management fees on its bond funds by an average of 13% and on its asset-allocation funds by 10%, and it eliminated a "wrap fee" that had added 0.05% to the total costs of its target-date retirement funds.

Further, this fall the company will go through the proxy process necessary to institute performance fees on some of its stock funds, so that Putnam gets paid more only if its funds exceed index benchmarks and, thus, investor expectations. If Putnam funds underperform their index, the company -- which is footing the bill for the proxy vote rather than foisting it onto shareholders -- takes a hit right along with its customers.

As part of the shareholder-approval process, Putnam will create companywide breakpoints, where fees go down when the company's assets rise. Currently, breakpoints are calculated on individual funds, despite the fact that funds with a similar investment approach share research, analysts and infrastructure.

Putnam's bond funds already were priced below the industry average of 1.02%, according to Morningstar, but the cut, on average, dropped total expenses to 0.919% from 0.965%. (Management fees make up about 60% of that total; on average, management costs for Putnam's 20 fixed-income funds have been cut to 0.486%, down from 0.555%.)

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Shared goals

Performance fees are a real reward or punishment. Take, for example, Putnam Voyager Fund (PVOYX), arguably Putnam's flagship fund. From 2003 through 2007, the fund was a below-average performer, lagging both its peer group and its index; while investors suffered that misery, the fund collected its standard fees. Like most stock funds, Voyager lost big in 2008, but it was much better than its peer group; over the last year, the fund has been at the very top of its category. Management got no extra rewards for the top results.

For Putnam, therefore, the emphasis was on getting assets in house and keeping them there, not on managing them better than the competition.

Under the new schedule, if Voyager beats the benchmark by 4%, Putnam earns an additional 0.12 point in performance fees; if the fund lags its benchmark by the same margin, costs fall by the same 0.12 percentage point. That's a real incentive or penalty; it makes results more important to the funds company than asset-gathering.

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Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:29:46 AM

1. I think the premise if this article is simply not right.  The goal of the brokerage firm, like any other BUSINESS is to make money for themselves.  They do this by making money for the investor.

2. If, they find that they can charge more and higher fees and can still attract and keep investors they will do so.

3. While figures don't lie, liars can figure.  You can find different rates of return on the same fund.  Well how can that be?  You are not comparing apples to apples.  One shows the gross increase and the other shows increase less expenses.  If, the first is posted, YOU WILL FIND THAT SHOULD YOU GO TO SPEND THAT MONEY, YOU HAVE LESS THE MANAGEMENT FEES AND EXPENSES COMPOUNDING OVER TIME.

4. Most of us, me included, had a true idea of the stock market risk each of their funds carry.  I for one, know that a beta of 1 means that it is the same as the market as a whole.  I for one just realized that I don't know if the posted beta is calculated daily, quarterly or?

5. If, management fees are tied to returns clearly there is even more incentive for the fund manager to take more risk.

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:36:32 AM

43 years, read the prospectus for a fund if you want to find out what the real net performance is.  These are required to be standardized reported returns, reflecting expenses. 

You're right to be careful about returns published in articles and ads. Many folks are misinformed or in the tank for the fund families they write about.

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:56:03 AM

Once again, an MSN article with little real meat.  So per the figures you cite, they've cut management fees by .046% and they're still at almost .92%.

 

1).  This is still way too high.

2).  Bond funds' returns over time are almost entirely based on the credit quality and maturity length of the bonds they invest in, and what happens to interest rates.  It's not like you will expect some meaningful outperformance in bond fund X over a long period of time -- many bond analysts can analyze bond safety.  So, citing Vanguard's John Bogle in "The Little Book of Common Sense Investing" - there is NO REASON to pay high fees to a bond fund manager, hoping for meaningful outperformance. (At least with actively managed stock funds, you may get lucky).

3).  Looking at Vanguard bond funds as an efficient example of a competitor (which this article should have done - unless they're in the tank for Putnam (which I suspect) - I find the fees are quite low, as I expected.  The range for general types of bond funds (not state specific munis) was 0.2% to .32%, with the average looking like about .25%.  WHY PAY PUTNUM OR THEIR PEERS AN EXTRA 0.6% OR MORE on average, for NO rational expectation of long term outperformance?

 

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:12:22 PM
I was in several Putnam funds for years and watched their poor performance as well. During that time and also during the recent crash they always managed to collect their fees. Nothing changed until I got fed up and went into other funds. For me these changes are too little and too late. There are lots of funds out there that are still in the same old rut. It's about time they get the message. I once heard a financial rep say that if a fund makes money and the broker makes money, if the customer looses money.... well two out of three isn't bad. That's the attitude a lot of them have. It's high-time that stopped.
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