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9 questions Wall Street must answer

Another Depression may have been averted, but the bailouts compromised our future. We need to know how the economy fell into such a deep hole.

By Melik Kaylan, Forbes.com

The reader can rest assured that I have no training or professional expertise in finance or business. I say this not as a disclaimer but -- chest forward and chin high -- as a claim on the reader's trust.

A year into the disaster, much of the country still regards Wall Street with a confusion bordering on fury. What happened, why it happened, why nobody foresaw or prevented it, who is to blame, what's the right and wrong of it, what should be done, what the future holds, what it means about our free-market system -- all remains crepuscular, speculative.

One thing seems sure, there's a tinny, fraudulent sound to the Babylonian blather of the experts: The layman won't believe any of it anymore. All that opaque, priestly algebra -- risk management, credit ratings, contract triggers, "sophisticated" markets -- had no power to protect the harvest from failing.

The reader will perhaps remember the giddy days when chaos theory was said to illuminate an entire swath of the market's mystical secrets. So much for that. And those brilliant physics and math Ph.D's who turned to finance. Where are they now? Quite chapfallen?

And so, on the rare occasions that I comment on the economy, I offer my layman's status as a chief qualification, along with many years of marinating in sour journalistic common sense.

Questions build up, compounded by a frustration that they remain unanswered, and a queasy sense that these are impertinent or ignorant questions. They may be. But so were the questions that troubled us -- which we the uninformed failed to ask out of diffidence -- before everything imploded.

Here then is another installment of impertinent probes from the lair of the idiot economist.

1. Why shouldn't Wall Street's stars get even bigger bonuses -- for the infusions they garnered from the government, indeed from us?

In Wall Street, you get bonuses for the money you lure into a deal. Why not bailout bonuses? After all, the bailouts provided the liquidity from which successful bankers made the new deals that earned them the new round of 2009 bonuses.

Could they have made those deals without the bailouts? Ah, but that's the public's money, you say. In that case, they owe the bonuses to us.

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2. If Wall Streeters don't get bonuses, they will resign and work for the competition. That's precisely what they should do. We failed to stop entire industries from decamping to other countries. Why are investment bankers more important to the U.S. economy than, say, textile workers?

In a global system, we are China and China is us, as are Germany and Britain. So we are told. Even at the height of unionized labor, textile workers and their ilk cost us less than the banks.

3. Do bonus-earning bankers return their dollars back into the U.S. economy? Do they buy or invest American? Or do they put their money into ventures abroad manned by cheaper labor working longer hours?

That's the free market. Fair enough. But the front end, the money from U.S. citizens, is not the free market. Perhaps the taxpayer should get a percentage of the profit the bankers make from investing their bonuses.

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4. We keep being told that Bernie Madoff was investigated three times by the SEC to no effect. Why do we not know the exact details of these investigations, who performed them and why they failed to unearth anything? What is the SEC hiding?

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Friday, November 06, 2009 3:06:51 PM
This country is going to have to chose between taking extremely good care of the fat cats on Wall Street etc. or taking better care of the ordinary people of this country.  Rebellion is surely coming.  I have two daughter that have had homeless friends move in with them and I live in one of the best states, for joblessness and financial condition, in the USA.  They both own homes which they are not likely to pay off and both have had  bankrupt procedures.  I have a homeless couple with children moved in with parents next door on the West.  To the East across the side street three homeless girls moved in over the past six months with three men.  Across the street South three homeless middle aged children and their children have moved back with two sets of parents.  I myself have to support or help support all three of my children.  Having worked hard and save all of my life I have gone from adequate monies coming from interest and bonds to live on to virtually no income so that the Fed can keep interest rates low for business.  Not having a job, I retired twelve years ago,  I see running out of money in six or seven years.  I could see all three of my kids moving in with me, with no unused space in my house now, when the time comes unless they learn something new in their middle age that replaces what I am giving them now.   Lynn X  Comments addresses to Lynn X would be appreciated.
Friday, November 06, 2009 3:55:29 PM

These are truly some thought provoking questions that I would like to see answered before the next election cycle. For the first time in my life I truly feel like I have been cheated by my government and I will not vote for any incumbent who has already served two terms. Where possible I will vote independent in 2010 and 2012. 

Friday, November 06, 2009 4:18:45 PM

The article hits many good points that need answers, I don't believe tax payer money should reward or benefit those that use it for gains without being shared. Yes those citizens that truly need our tax dollars to recover from misfortune is warranted but, corporations that use it to speculate for profit should be given two options; 1. All gains are to be returned to the treasury or 2. All gains are to be shared 80/20 with the treasury. 

Speculation with tax payer money should not yield rewards to individuals within the business that speculates.  There is no accountability for them, so what happens if they use the TARP money and loose, do they (individuals) have to pay it back? Or just close the doors and the tax payers’ are out again.

 

Lynn X

I think you need to direct your children to the social services that are available to them.  You can not continue to jeopardize your future.  It is a very hard pill to swallow but, these are dizzy times and you will not be doing them any favors if you fail too!

 

Friday, November 06, 2009 4:19:49 PM
Greed will never go away.  We will replace one greed monger with another.  Our political system is run by the highest bidder with the most advertising money.  This process isn't perfect, yet it is highly effective in electing the majority of office holders.  The only way out of this cycle is education.  We, the voters, all must know what is going on and act accordingly.  Otherwise, we will continue voting in the next Democrat or Republican puppet who will use 40% of our taxes for their profit.  We're not totally shackled in slavery yet - only 40%.
Friday, November 06, 2009 5:58:36 PM

I don't consider myself nearly as far left that Michael Moore places himself in but I did see Capitalism, a Love Affair, the other evening and I DO believe it should be required watching for many of our people of the X generation as well as Y generation who seem to be  so into greed and feel money is the answer to all problems.

 

Hey, I still pay the same commissions and fees for the commodity funds I am in.  I certainly have not noticed any reduction in their profits.  The CEO pay and bonuses paid , along with stock options makes me gag! Yet you see ranches going into foreclosure all the way across Wyoming where my daughter IS a cattle rancher who is very land rich but dollar poor.  Yet Wall Street still is safe with the same commissions on the livestock she produces and of course the banks have a tendency to go toward not lending hardly at all because they have other things to do, like pay obnoxious salaries to their executives.

 

  As long as we have the mentality in this country to get RICH off people who are sick is perfectly okay without the least bit of thinking twice about it we will continue our flow down the toilet folks!  Just check out the executive pay for our compassionate pharmaceutical companies and go from there!  Oh, did I say compassionate??  I think the word should have been compulsive.  Compulsive robbery maybe??

Friday, November 06, 2009 6:59:00 PM

Nostradamus Unemployment and Statistics Numbers

 

End 2009 - 11.5%  Real 23% Companies preparing CH 11

End 2010 - 16% Real 39%  [35% of US companies CH 11

End 2011 - 21% Real 51% [ US is Bankrupt (55% of US companies in foreign countries)]

End 2012 - Wars. The Infinite "Caput"

 

The "Caput" includes Wall Street, not just Main Street

Friday, November 06, 2009 7:36:33 PM
All excellent questions that will never be answered.  Many of us speak of changing our votes next election, if the last election giving Dems full control of Congress and the White House cannot pass any effective reform, voting folks in and out is irrelevant.  Until there are true repercussions for these LOW CLASS high paid crooks they will continue to STEAL from the American worker.  If our Federal Justice system will not prosecute, new regulations are not the answer.  Whom among us is to bring justice to the American people.  Alas, I fear, it will have to e us, WE THE PEOPLE.  The revolt is coming and the American people are waiting for someone to light the fire.  Maybe the violence we see this week is a truly sad beginning.  Unfortunatly, the wrong people were killed and injured.  I would never condone starting a revolution, but to condone joining it once it begins.  WE THE PEOPLE must unite and quit thinking this is Republican vs Democrat, liberal vs conservative, it is simply class warfare and they are winning.  Forget Health Care Reform, this was designed to divide us and take our eye of the real problem WALL STREET. 
Friday, November 06, 2009 8:22:36 PM
If these guys are the best then why did all these companies fall apart?  If they want to work for the competition then let them go.  F@#& them! Let them run down the competition.  Everybody knows wall street and these fat cats are out for themselves.  The real problem is that no one in our government has the balls to do anything about it.
Friday, November 06, 2009 8:41:17 PM

Where's the Pound of Flesh???????????

 

A pound of flesh, no more, no less.... nor grissle nor bone.... only flesh!

 

I have another question for Wall Street. 

 

WHERE IS MY MONEY??????????????????????????

 

These M-F-ers fought to get all the regulations taken away and the enforcement agencies defunded.  Now, I want repayment!

Friday, November 06, 2009 8:52:38 PM

Good question.  We give Tax cuts to wealthy people so the Trickle Down Vodoo economics will 'work' for the working class.  Tax cuts for Wealthy people were supposed to create a Strong and Vibrant Economy.  If Tax Cuts for Rich people Create a Strong and Vibrant Economy and We gave them tax cuts in the Bush Presidency:  What Happened?

 

We Gave them Tax cuts----Then, the economy still failed.

 

So, we should learn our lesson.  Tax Cuts for the Rich cause economic collapse.

 

 

We should remove the kidneys of all the bankers and force them to only use our Dialisys machines and charge them $50,000,000 per treatment until we get back all our money.  At $50M per week, it'll take 144,000 weeks to get our money back.  7.2 trillion spent on this economic bailout.  I want Revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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