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No business like 'Going Out of Business'

A Texas carpet shop changes its controversial name, but the haggling goes on and on. Now the store is advertising 'total liquidations.'

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By The Wall Street Journal

When Cyrus Hassankola moved to Dallas a couple of years ago, after successfully going out of business in several locales, he decided to settle down and go out of business permanently.

"The response was good from Day One," the carpet salesman says.

Customers rooting through the stacks of Oriental rugs in the store he opened on a busy road in North Dallas would sometimes say how sorry they were that he was going out of business. "We're not," Hassankola told them. "It's just the name of the store."

A business literally called Going Out of Business didn't sit well in some quarters, one of them the Texas Attorney General's Office. So Hassankola -- for a limited time only -- has stopped going out of business.

Now he's running regular "total liquidations" that "beat every going-out-of-business price." In his vocation, this is established practice. But the arrival of hard times has thrown the survival of the going-out-of-business model into doubt. Everybody else is slashing prices as if there's no tomorrow. Old-line going-out-of-business businesses are lost in the crowd.

And their best customer -- the American trained to pay the advertised price -- has taken to haggling. America's Research Group, a South Carolina polling company, says 72% of 1,000 consumers interviewed in February had haggled in the past year (31% is the historical average), and they reported getting deals 80% of the time. Last year, only half the retailers they took a shot at caved in. Hassankola spots the trend whenever he rolls out a rug.

"That's pretty -- let's take it," a woman named Mary was saying to her husband, Jerry, on a Saturday afternoon in the store. They were studying a $4,200 hand-knotted carpet selling for $2,179. "I definitely don't like that price," said Jerry. Mary whispered, "See if he can make you happy."

Hassankola's helper, Hamid Moradi, tapped a calculator to set the "liquidation" price: $1,526. Jerry jiggled his keys. Moradi said, "Make it $1,000. If you love it, take it home." Jerry stared.

"I think you have to pay for it," Mary whispered. Jerry said, "No, we don't."

And they didn't. Moradi let them take the rug home, to see whether it matched their furniture.

As they left, Hassankola brimmed with optimism for a quick rebound in distressed sales. A slender man, 43 years old, he speaks with candor. "At last, they're bargaining," he said. "Now we must wake them up. Come back! Buy again! They think they're playing a game. I know. I'm part of this game. If I say no, I'm a liar."

Where Hassankola comes from -- Tehran -- the game is played without price tags, a style common in carpet bazaars from Delhi to Marrakech. In the West, an astronomical price tag is often a fiction; slashing it is a way to let buyers believe they're getting a discount. Price tag or not, the sellers are the ones who know where a rug comes from, how old it is, how good it is and how much it cost them.

Except for connoisseurs, most buyers know only what they "love." A seller can size up a buyer and decide what he's likely to pay. In business school, it's called "price discrimination." Hassankola has learned that lesson: He went to business school in Switzerland. When he finished, in 1991, he took a job in a Zurich rug warehouse.

The smell -- barnyard and mothballs -- stirred memories of his grandfather's rug store. That was all he knew of the trade, but he had studied the beauties of going bust. Zurich was known as a trading post for wealth escaping Iran in the guise of carpets, which were piling up in fixed-price shops. Hassankola hooked up with one of them, packed it with stock and advertised an emergency shutdown.

The place stayed open for months and "made tons of money," he says, adding: "If a store is closing forever, people believe they can squeeze you. It is the power of words."

Hassankola says he reprised his act in Zurich four times, then opened a store of his own there and went out of business in 1999.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:39:06 AM
Nothing like a Fake sell.  Sure you can haggle with a street vendor but I doubt Walmart is going to lower there price for the stuff in your shopping cart.
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:20:58 PM
Dont know of many others but this was the whole concept behind best buy. most don't know you can haggle with them, its the reason they're called best buy
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:31:31 PM
You can't haggle with insurance. That being said, when you first start our policy it could be the best rate at the time. But, you credit may have gotten better over the last year or an overall better situation for you will reduce your rates. Each company HAS to file their rates with the insurance commissioner and are unable to just change it on the fly. They could be fined heavily and go to jail. What happens when you find a better rate, is that companies change their rates sometimes as soon as every 6 months. With a rate change your luck could change. It's best to get a new quote from your agent every 6 months to a year.
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:41:18 PM
Car dealers, music stores, furniture stores, electronic stores are all places that I've got better deals than the asking price for years, if not cash, free accessories or installation delivery etc., all you have to do is ask. The usual road side fruit and vegetable stands, pawn shops and swap meets all give better deals if you ask. I thought everybody knew that!!!
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:56:58 PM
I have had car dealers refuse my offers,  I have had furniture stores refuse delivery to my home. Must just be me becasue Thay never move there price or adjust there services when I have tryed.  Even when I have had cash in hand.
Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:36:22 AM
Maybe you make ridiculous offers? As someone who sold cars for a year and a half, we would never turn down an offer where we were making an even somewhat ok amount of money. If you're one of those people who walks in and offers 10K off a 25K MSRP car MINUS the rebates... Well that's impossible. But if you walk in and pay Invoice minus rebates, just about any dealer will take it even though that's generally a pretty darn good deal. Used cars are far trickier, but if you offer bluebook wholesale that's generally a reasonable deal for you, and they dealer might still be making a few bucks. Ask to see their cost in the computer screen and go from there, a lot of managers will do it on a used car IF you say you'll pay 500 or 1000 over cost.

Or the other possibility is that you don't look serious. Sometimes people make offers and you can tell they'll go higher. So you tell them no and see what happens. If they're gonna leave, you do what you have to to make the deal. If they buckle, then there ya go.

Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36:56 AM
Haggling is a contact sport. One is either a devotee or not. I actually look forward to the joust when buying a car or other big ticket item. On other occasions, say shopping in Mexico, I just can't do it. I figure the few dollars mean a lot more to that hat peddler  than to me although I know that when I leave he's saying "Stupid Gringo paid me $6 for that piece of crap".
Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:21:35 PM

Never ever shop at a place that is constantly going out of business or always having a liquidation sale.  What a bunch of crooks.

 

My experience is they are never willing to haggle.  They want the sucker that really believes they are "going out of business" and must sale their inventory quickly and at a loss. 

 

I consider that false advertising.

 

Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:44:20 AM

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Market Gurus are Sounding Bullish = No business like 'Going Out of Business'

 

Hard hitting opinion piece = advertisement for rug dealer

 

Another MSN Money bate and switch or another MSN OOOOOpss link error?

 

 

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