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US Postal Service still losing billions

The agency has cut 40,000 jobs and will propose ending Saturday delivery.

Posted by Elizabeth Strott on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:10 AM

© U.S. Postal ServiceThe U.S. Post Service did not escape the effects of the economic meltdown.

 

The USPS on Monday said it suffered a net loss of $3.8 billion for fiscal 2009, which ended Sept. 30. The loss came despite $6 billion in cost savings and $4 billion in reduced payments for retiree health benefits, the agency said in a press release.

 

The USPS slashed 40,000 jobs, but it still employs more than 712,000 people.

 

"Our 2009 fiscal year proved to be one of the most challenging in the history of the Postal Service," said chief financial officer Joseph Corbett. "The deep economic recession, and to a lesser extent the ongoing migration of mail to electronic alternatives, significantly affected all mail products, creating a large imbalance between revenues and costs."

 

The loss is the third in a row. In fiscal 2008, the USPS lost $2.8 billion, and in 2007, it lost $5 billion. The USPS is a self-supporting government agency that does not receive any tax dollars, relying solely on postage, products and services.

 

"We realize our customers are facing the same economic challenges," said Postmaster General John Potter. "That's why we are not raising prices on first-class mail, standard mail and our other market-dominant products in 2010."

 

But the service has to do something to get back in the black, so it plans to formally propose to Congress the idea of ending Saturday delivery, which would save the agency $3.5 billion. The USPS will also propose to Congress that it reduce the $5.5 billion in annual payments to pre-fund retiree health benefits that it must make until 2016.

 

Legislation must address "the impossible demands" of pre-funding future retiree health benefits at current levels of more than $5 billion annually, Potter said.

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:36:55 PM
I have lived in Frankford west Virginia for a period of five years. This a  new development  and the road servicing this area is paved and in good condition.  Since moving here for some unknown reason the Postal Service has refused to provide this street with any type of home delivery . If this is the kind of service we can expect in the future then I think that it's time to let Private Industry take over , for the people on this street  ( Glenwood Lane)  we do not have any Postal Service.
Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:36:42 PM
Completely agree!  Every year they screw up our mail forwarding (we're in Florida for the winter), causing late fees on bills, so I've been switching over to auto-debit on all our bills.  Just got a Christmas card returned that I sent, no reason stamped on it, now I have to spend more money to re-send it and hope it gets there before the 25th.  When you go to the lobby, 50/50 chance the agent will give you attitude.  Service stinks!
Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:25:19 PM
phil74501:  Sad to agree that it is all in IOU's like Social Security.  Took me 50 years to get out of debt and be in the black, now all I read about is deficits, unemployment, and massive bonuses.  By the end of 2010, the deficit will have grown to be larger than our total GDP.  The biggest question I have is:  How big and for how long can the Feds grow the debt before declaring Bankruptcy?  Once that happens, the dollar may become worthless, and unemployment will drive good people to do bad things to keep their families alive.  Pessimistic thoughts from a fiscal conservative.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:53:26 PM
Postal Annex then takes your packages to the Post Office, but first they charged you more to mail that package to recoup that free tape. 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:09:57 PM
himmel like it or not there are still 10's of millions of people who are dependent upon the Postal Service.  That's not going to change anytime soon.  Either they are behind the technology curve, they can't afford a computer/internet at home, or it's a small business that can't afford an IT department.  So unless you are willing to pay, with tax dollars and a government program, to provide those people with a computer, the training to use it, and internet access, we will still need the Postal Service. 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:31:27 PM
To Postmom4 - The times have changed - just like the pony express, the telegram, mom and pop stores.  It isn't necessarily the fault of the government as I believe the people who have been hired since 1990's are not Federal employees and not part of the old system. Their benefits are not the same as in the past. 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:24:26 PM
THe reason USPS is not doing well, is the lack of first class mail. With the arrival of the Internet, everyone including businesses use it to send messages.  When was the las time you actually mailed a first class letter to a friend or business?  FEDEX and UPS only deal with packages.  The third class mail is the only thing that is still mailed to homes and that is also redundant because one only has to go on line to order the latest items with a click.  The Pony Express became obsolete with the automobile - things change and this is one of them. The PO even now has postage stamps you can buy on line, at supermarkets, etc. so that is another way of eliminating their staff. 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:21:26 PM
In 2004 the PRC suggested that the retiree health fund be prefunded.  It was suggested to keep that from becoming a drag on the government somewhere down the line.  In 2006 it was enacted into law.  It's really not a bad idea.  Problem is there is no retiree health fund.  It's just like the Social Security trust fund.  Congress has spent every dime the USPS has put into it and replaced it with IOU's. 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:35:17 PM
phil74501:  Thank you for clarifying who mandated the pre-payment.  So the government dictated that 5.5 billion per year gets put into Wall Street for the potential benefit of postal retirees.  As far as your comment about Bush appointees, it doesn't matter because both parties are just as corrupt.  Unions do have something to do with it, because their retired members would be collecting the payments from the fund.  Hope they are not banking on it being there, because it will be gone when everything goes Bankrupt.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:23:29 PM
Whoisdurin that pre-payment was something enacted into law at the behest of the Postal Regulatory Commission, most of which are Bush appointees.  Unions have nothing to do with. 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:05:21 AM

It is interesting to note that the USPS intends to eliminate the service that it in business to provide - mail delivery on Saturday.  That is akin to an auto company deciding to stop making cars because it is too expensive.

 

Your conclusion about the balance of business and government is in stark contrast to one of the greatest economists of our time, Milton Friedman.  Friedman wrote that a supplier and a customer should have the freedom to decide whether they want to do business without government intervention.

 

Friedman has the experience, expertise and knowledge that we should all be aware of before we offer our unqualified opinions on whether government is capable of effectively and efficiently running any type of program.  History indicates that government is incapable of performing to either of these levels of proficiency.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:44:34 AM
I have been researching this subject about government and private business issues for a number of weeks now for school.  I think I have arrived at the answer as to why our country is in the state it is in.  Our government lost track, along time ago, on what its true function is.  Its not about Republicans or Democrats being the bad guy because both parties have equally contributed to our troubles.  The true function of our government should be protection of the citizens with the military, provide social safety nets for the poor or those who lose their job, provide education, and other social services such as the post office, fire department, police, department, veterans affairs, and urban planning.  The next function should be to provide laws and regulations of private businesses and the financial industries to protect the citizens and investors from the greed and avarice of big business.  Our government does provide the military and social services for the betterment of its citizens but it has forgotten to protect the average citizen from CEO's, Wall Street, and evil bank managers.  Instead the government is more concerned with protecting the wealth of the rich and powerful.  I think Obama had his heart in the right place when he began this journey but he ran into a huge wall called the senate and house of representatives, the banks, CEO's of large corporations, Wall Street, and other evil doers.  He listened to the bad advice of people like Tim Geithner who only has the interests of the rich in mind and not the average citizen.  The foxes are in charge of the hen house and we are the hens sitting at the mercy of the ravenous foxes. 
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Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:11:25 AM
I love the argument that if the USPS is tanking financially it is because the government runs it and therefore the government is unqualified to run a health insurance business.  This is faulty logic.  The private businesses are not being run very well either.  Take a look at the automakers for example.  How about AIG?  How about your precious private insurers who are also in financial trouble but hasn't been disclosed on the news to you idiots yet?  There has to be a balance between government and private industry otherwise you have the chaos we have now.  Do you realize that the government is not in control of our financial system?  The banks are.  They are the ones with the power and control.  This is why our economy has been devasted.  Take the time to research and find the truth out for yourself.  This is what happens when greed and private companies are allowed to control things rather than the rule of law and order. 
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Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:45:46 AM

The Government promises they will do better with healthcare. Apparently delivering mail and boxes is extremely complicated task, but they know they can handle healthcare. They point to their enormous success of the stimulus package and the creation of jobs. Just look at what they have done for the housing industry and the follow up success with lenders and banking industry. It’s hard to believe how UPS and FEDEX are able to stay in business* just lucky I guess.

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:50:29 AM
Why do we need mail delivered 6 days a week?  Over 50% of what I receive is junk mail.  I say go to 4 days a week and dump the overload of management.  You NEED to continue to fund benefits for future retirees.  If that funding stops the next thing to go will be benefits to current retirees.  We still need the USPS, but it needs to be run like a business.
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