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Poll: Unemployment to hit 10.5%

The spike in the jobless rate will come by the middle of next year, economists predict.

Posted by Elizabeth Strott on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:43 AM

Unemployment in the United States will hit 10.5% by the middle of next year, according to economists surveyed by Reuters.

 

The survey, which polled about 50 economists across the U.S. and Europe, said the high rate will affect the Federal Reserve's ability to raise interest rates. Economists had forecast a peak of 10.1% in the jobless rate by the first quarter of 2010 in Reuters' previous poll.

 

What happens after 10% unemployment?

 

On Friday, the Labor Department said the U.S. jobless rate jumped to 10.2% in October, the highest level in 26 years.

 

The highest post-World War II jobless rate was 10.8%, at the height of the 1982 recession.

 

"Historically the Fed has not started hiking (interest rates) until 12 to 18 months after the peak in the unemployment rate. The outlook for the beginning part of next year in terms of growth is still very uncertain and for all for next year," said Zach Pandl, an economist at Nomura Securities.


San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank President Janet Yellen this morning said the U.S. will likely experience another jobless recovery.

 

Yellen, giving a speech in Phoenix, said that the past two recessions, in 1991 and 2001, were followed by so-called jobless recoveries and that "things seem to be shaping up similarly this time around."

 

With such a slow rebound, unemployment could stay high for several years to come, she said.

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Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:28:52 AM
mumpe7, "radical republicans"? You are a complete idiot. Try to keep up with real history instead of just the spin on MSNBC. First of, who was running congress for the past 3 years? How did the subprime mess start which is the main source of the economic crisis. Look up Barney Frank, Freddie mac, Community Reinvestment Act. You libturds are simply stupid and you wonder why you have nothing.
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:19:47 PM
Amen TOMIMD!!  Others have given up on trying to get unemployment.  Say, how about they hire some people to process the claims, even if it's only temporary?  Have you been to the DMV lately...I can't wait until we have government healthcare!  Socialism at it's finest!
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:17:27 PM
I don't care how many people go unemployed, can't pay for health care, don't have retirements anymore, or can't afford housing...I am just happy that the bankers, Wall Street and major corporations are still lining their pockets...
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:04:43 PM

If fixing unemployment is a priority it could be done real easily. Just a couple of ideas. Lower SS age for the next 2 years to get some of the people that still have a savings to retire. SS on the workers would need to be raised to cover the cost. I have to believe there is a couple of million people that would take that offer to retire early.

number 2 idea is to "buyout" some of the older workers. Offer a one time payment to people over 55 to see how many would take it. Either idea would require the employed people to pay a little more every paycheck. I am unemployed but I would love to be able to find a job even if I had to pay a little more every week.

Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:08:29 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AMONG THE ILLEGAL'S

IN OUR COUNTRY . I WONDER HOW THAT WOULD INFLUENCE THE

OVERALL NATIONAL RATE

Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:46:03 PM
I guess everyone had a part in the U.S FAILED ECONOMY! Taking out loans that they couldn't afford. The idiots at Fannie Mae  and Freddie Mac allowing this to happen. Trying to fix ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD. Letting our manufacturing jobs go overseas. Oh I forgot the most important person that had a major hand in this ,and that was the so called financial CZAR ALAN GREENSPAN what a genius!
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:25:17 PM

prone2xs

"Tell me which high tech jobs have gone overseas.  Dell computer support?"

 

How about test engineering jobs, PCB design jobs, supplier quality engineering, process engineering, etc, etc.

 

Your belief that only low-paying, low tech jobs go overseas is really 20th century thinking.  I'm guessing you're not in the high tech field otherwise you would be seeing high tech jobs are in fact going overseas.  The reason is that other countries are graduating more and more engineers, biochemists, etc.  We're losing our edge.  But I agree with you that we need to be more educated and continue to strive to be on the cutting edge.  It's just not happening right now.

Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:15:52 PM

First off, we already are over 10.5% U3 unemployment.  The BLS last month came out and admitted that the "Birth-Death" model used to determine when a wage-earner converts over into an entrepreneur was optimistic for the year ended 3/31/09 to the tune of approximately 800,000 jobs.  This model previously had added approximately 700,000 jobs for that time period.  Therefore, all jobs added by the "Birth-Death" adjustment during the year ended 3/31/09 were created by the BLS out of thin air and will be revised next year back to from where they came.

 

http://www.bls.gov/web/cesbd.htm

 

This adjustment will be made when the March 2010 numbers are released.  800,000 jobs equates to approximately .5% U3 unemployment.  10.2% plus .5% equals 10.7%.  What a bold call these great, salaried and pensioned economists are making...

 

There is no telling how far off the "Birth-Death" model has been since 3/09, but if you follow the above link, you will see that this model has added approximately 900,000 jobs into the marketplace since 3/31/09.  Those of us living in the real world know that the small businesses we are forced to start upon being laid off are paying nowhere near what we made as a salaried employee, if they pay at all. 

 

It is safe to predict that these jobs added by the "Birth-Death" model will become vapor when the next round of revisions are made in 2011, but by then whatever politicians in power will be blaming this phenomenon on "lagging indicators", "Jobless recoveries" and Bush/Obama (pick one). 

 

Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:10:49 PM
like you didn't know that?
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:54:05 PM

"moron high-tech jobs been going over seas as well"

 

Tell me which high tech jobs have gone overseas.  Dell computer support?

 

Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:54:00 PM
A good example of the Govt. taking care of business happened to me today. I filed for unemployment four weeks ago, checked today and the response I got was we are busy, expect another four to six week delay in payment. Same crap will happen under new Health Care.
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:52:03 PM
As best as I can tell, most of the stimulus spending went to save mostly governmental and union jobs (teachers, fire fighters, police, etc.).  This might have been a good thing, but it doesn't create jobs.  The stimulus money should have gone to updating our highways, building bridges, building water and sewer plants, etc.  The U.S. has always been a country of doers.  We come up with ideas and we build stuff.  This creates jobs.  Appeasing the labor unions by saving a few of their jobs doesn't help much.
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:50:59 PM
cstewart college kids are the root as what happened to the economy in the first place.
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:45:00 PM
prone2 you moron high-tech jobs been going over seas as well,no get outa the library an get to your classroomDisappointed
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:42:28 PM

This nation did not get in this mess in just one year!!!  So why do people think Obama can get us out in just one year???

Give the guy a break!!!

I say it is time for war!  Vote them all out of office and start over.

Close our borders.  No Imports or Exports until we fix this mess.

Fire all the bank CEO's and go to the colleges and get fresh people to fill these jobs.  Cap the incomes of these CEO's.  No more million dollar bonuses.

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