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'Cash for clunkers' program may be shelved

Because of heavy processing backlogs, auto dealers fear the program is just about to run out of money.

Posted by Charley Blaine on Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:40 PM


Car buyers © Image100/JupiterimagesUpdated: 9:20 p.m. ET.

 

It was a swell program -- while it lasted. Too good, actually.

 

The government plans to suspend its popular "cash for clunkers" program amid concerns it could quickly use up the $1 billion in rebates for new car purchases, congressional officials told The Associated Press late today.

 

The Transportation Department called lawmakers' offices to alert them to the decision to suspend the program at midnight Friday.

 

The program offers owners of old cars and trucks $3,500 or $4,500 toward a new, more fuel-efficient vehicle.

 

Congress last month approved the Car Allowance Rebate System program, known as CARS, to boost auto sales and remove some inefficient cars and trucks from the roads. The program kicked off last Friday and was heavily publicized by car companies and auto dealers.

 

Through late Wednesday, 22,782 vehicles had been purchased through the program and nearly $96 million had been spent. But dealers raised concerns about large backlogs in the processing of the deals in the government system, prompting the suspension.

 

A survey of 2,000 dealers by the National Automobile Dealers Association found about 25,000 deals had not yet been approved by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or nearly 13 trades per store.

 

Bill Golling, owner of Golling Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge in Bloomfield Hills, Mich., told the Detroit Free Press that his dealership had sold 80 vehicles already under the program.

 

"It’s working so well I’ve got people mad at me because I can’t take care of them," he said.

 

The popularity of the program raised concerns that with about 23,000 dealers taking part in the program, auto dealers may already have surpassed the 250,000 vehicle sales funded by the $1 billion program.

 

Since the program was to run as long as there was money left in the $950 million pool, dealers have been concerned the fund could run dry before they were reimbursed for all their deals -- which requires them to junk the clunker.

 

"That’s something we’re watching very closely," NHTSA spokesman Rae Tyson told the Free-Press today.

 

"We need to make sure that there’s enough money in the system to cover the transactions that have already occurred. We certainly don’t want dealers to get stuck."

 

"There's a significant backlog of 'cash for clunkers' deals that make us question how much funding is still available in the program," said Bailey Wood, a spokesman for the dealers association.

 

A big problem appears to be that the process for submitting qualification paperwork is incredibly slow, the Free Press said.

 

One dealer told the paper, "I have not spoken to one dealer that has received approval, and or has been funded, for even a single transaction."

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Friday, July 31, 2009 9:34:16 AM
in response to embedded_Journalist::

Cry me a river....you lose "potential" profit of a few thousand, yet don't mention the fact that we WERE selling 16MM cars / year...and are now on pace this year, WITH INCENTIVES, to be 10MM cars.  You've already profited handsomely from ppl who should never have been buying cars anyways...not you b*tch and complain b/c Bush left the economy in the dumps and cost you a few more bucks...oh wait..it MUST be the current administration's fault...

If you're whining about making Bush's tax cuts perm. you're already pulling in plenty of cash / year....I don't think a few grand of POTENTIAL profit will hurt you.

So, go cry a river you whiny b*tch

Friday, July 31, 2009 7:51:06 AM
I don't have a clunker so I guess I don't get this hand out. SadWhen are the ones who funded all this give away money going to get something in return? The cash for clunkers is one more failure to help put people back to work. Now you have people obligating for car payments they probably cannot afford.....I wonder how many of these new cars will get repossessed?
Friday, July 31, 2009 4:56:20 AM
So the people that got their cars crushed, and got $4500 for them, actually came out smelling like a rose. On the other hand the used car wholesalers who buy the cars for 1/4 to 1/3 of their true value, and make tons of money, and pay a very small percentage of taxes, compared to the lower or middle class, if they pay any taxes at all, didn't get rich for 3 days! What a shame! And as for making the bush UNFAIR tax cuts permanent, sorry but the gravy train is over! Trying to say that these tax cuts create jobs in small business, and boost the economy is the biggest scam since watergate. Small businesses are going to pay bare minimum wages, and no benefits, with the exception of a very few good decent god fearing men. They don't create jobs that a man can support his family with, and with no insurance, if someone gets sick, what little he makes is instantly gone. To cry foul over the cash for clunkers deal, and make out like its hurting the very poor who can only afford junk to drive, as if he really cares about the poor is disgusting. Whats wrong with our country now is a hard working average man, can't afford to buy anything, because of the ecomomy Bush stuck us with, while making the wealthy, super wealthy. The rich don't do the majority of buying in this country, the middle class does. And its been said, "the biggest prejudice in this country is the rich against the poor." And its true! Don't worry there are still tons of people out there that have barely enough money to buy an overpriced piece of junk, to get around, and break down every 50 miles, thus oppressing them even further! So smile you'll still have plenty of money, even when you have to pay your share of taxes. If you feel like you've lost alot of money, why don't you open a pay day loan office? Or a pawn shop? Those people have to get money somewhere! And you'll be getting even richer, for just being mother teresa, and helping the poor.
Friday, July 31, 2009 1:11:32 AM
Are you learning somthing bushisgonehaha
Friday, July 31, 2009 1:04:25 AM

Sorry didn't get my last and MOST important point from last post in due to length....


3) It shows how utterly incompetent, unqualified, inefficient and naive the Government is when they get involved in something best left to the private sector. If the Government can't administer a relatively simple and benign 1 Billion dollar Cash-For-Clunker trade-in program effectively, how and why would Americans ever let them try to take over the best health care system in the world and regulate, administer and manage it when it would be the largest Federal Program in history at just an initial and surely under-estimated cost of over  ONE TRILLION dollars? 

This is where the rubber meets the road. Tell your Congressman/woman and Senator in no uncertain terms, Don't you dare trade-in my health care for a Socialized Clunker Government Health Care Program!

Friday, July 31, 2009 12:57:40 AM

I am in the Auto Wholesaling business and I can tell you I knew this Cash for Clunkers program would be a screw job for the public, and the dealers. So now the Government has suspended it and dealers are anxiously awaiting word if their deals will be funded and honored. Personally, this program has damaged my income and potential income greatly. I have seen more than 50 trade-in vehicles at my dealerships that would ordinarily be wholesaled by the dealer to us, which we then sell to other small used car retail dealers. We make a bit of money, the dealer we sell to makes a little money when they retail these "economy" cars, the salesperson makes a little money and the lower income folks who have little or no access to financing in these extremely tightened lending times, are able to purchase a car. The car  is "recycled" from one owner to someone else who needs it to get to work, or use it for work in the case of these old trucks etc. that make up the bulk of the CFC trade-ins. This will reduce the supply of these low cost economy cars in the available marketplace and the little guy with little income and the least options available to him in purchasing a used vehicle will be the one hurt.

The vehicles engines must be disabled by having acid poured into the running engine until it seizes, and then an authorized salvage agent picks up the car and has it crushed. How wasteful.  I have lost potentially thousands and thousands of dollars to this program and other small business people like me have as well. In Mr. Fix-It's effort to save the planet, he expends tax-payer dollars and shows just how inept the government is when they try and inject themselves into areas best left to the private sector. This program is however good for a couple of things.

 1) It illustrates and proves just how vibrantly the American people and businesses are that can respond to an incentive. This further illustrates the folly of the Stimulus plan. All we needed was a 50% cut in all taxes across the board for 2 years, and ensuring that the 2010 Bush Cut expiration is extended and made permanent. This would have spurred and stimulated activity and investment in just the same fashion as CFC program did. It would have worked without burdening our children and grandchildren with the multi-generational debt, deficits and the abject failure of the Coalition of the Clueless (Obama, Peelosi, Reid, Geithner, Frank, Biden, Waxman etc.) and their ineptitude.


2) The market will respond to consumer demand. Hybrid vehicles have had greater purchase incentives than even the CFC program. They have all failed to provide any meaningful increase in sales. In fact, Hybrid sales are a disaster. Uncle Sam offers you on a 2009 Nissan Altima Hybrid a $2350 Tax Credit.  You also get a local Sales Tax rebate has been enacted that is part of the stimulus program, so in the case of  the Altima in Washington selling for $34,280 you would get back about $3,153 for that alone. Nissan offers up to $3,000 in Cash Rebates. So that would mean $8,503 in Govt. tax rebates/credits plus dealer incentives for the purchase of a 2009 Nissan Hybrid Altima. In honor of the recently departed Billy Mays…. BUT WAIT!   There’s more!  I am using MSRP for pricing these vehicles are becoming nothing more than ship anchors and I bet you could get another 3 Thousand off MSRP just get the thing cleared off their lot. What is my point in this? Simply this, Americans will buy what they want, not what the Government wants them to buy. They still want SUV’s and Trucks, and they are buying them with or without the Cash-For-Clunkers incentive. Visit a dealer’s lot and check out their supply of Toyota Prius and any other Hybrid model. I guarantee you that you will have the best selection to chose from of any other models on their lot. Regardless of the greatest incentive in the market place. This is why Chrysler and GM will fail as long as the Government is controlling them. Thy must make and sell what people will buy. No amount of incentives are currently pushing Hybrids off the lots.

 

3) It sho

Friday, July 31, 2009 12:55:21 AM
No more koolaid for you.
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:52:04 AM
Sorry not everyone agrees with you.  Sounds like you've been drinking the Republican kool-aid for years.  Apparently you want to stay broke because the  rich Republican aristocracy that just love so much is not about to do anything to help you that might cost them money.  They are going to TAKE your money and give you nothing in return.  Oh they'll spend money on TV ads trying to scare you.  That's how they keep their money. 
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:43:53 AM
Reamed Truth hurts doesn't it! The sad thing is you have been reamed right along with the rest of us. But the majority of Americans are screaming from the pain. Instead you are still kissing the man that did it too you!


#10
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:39:23 AM
Just put your Obama doll away drink your koolaid and go to bed.
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:36:46 AM
All of you Obama haters, that want to cry foul anytime anything gos wrong with Obama, because you just can't believe

America voted in a Democrat, much less an African American, for president, better get used to having a Democrat in

office! Theres one single person you can thank for it, George W Bush! You wanted him so badly he actually got

elected in 2004, of course it was retro active back to the 2000 election. He took a country with a balanced budget,

the lowest unemployment in years, and a surplus of money in the reserve and destroyed it, and all the people that

weren't on his payroll, in order to make the rich richer. He took your retirements away, and caused the highest rate

of poverty in history. Same result! Get over it!
"a poor man who votes Republican is an idiot."
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:35:57 AM
All of you Obama haters, that want to cry foul anytime anything gos wrong with Obama, because you just can't believe
America voted in a Democrat, much less an African American, for president, better get used to having a Democrat in
office! Theres one single person you can thank for it, George W Bush! You wanted him so badly he actually got
elected in 2004, of course it was retro active back to the 2000 election. He took a country with a balanced budget,
the lowest unemployment in years, and a surplus of money in the reserve and destroyed it, and all the people that
weren't on his payroll, in order to make the rich richer. He took your retirements away, and caused the highest rate
of poverty in history. Same result! Get over it!

"a poor man who votes Republican is an idiot."
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:32:11 AM
Bushisgone, that's one of the most entertaining posts that I've seen. Open-mouthed Keep them coming. You should have thrown in that global warming and toenail fungus was his fault too.
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:30:14 AM
All of you Obama haters, that want to cry foul anytime anything gos wrong with Obama, because you just can't believe

America voted in a Democrat, much less an African American, for president, better get used to having a Democrat in

office! Theres one single person you can thank for it, George W Bush! You wanted him so badly he actually got

elected in 2004, of course it was retro active back to the 2000 election. He took a country with a balanced budget,

the lowest unemployment in years, and a surplus of money in the reserve and destroyed it, and all the people that

weren't on his payroll, in order to make the rich richer. He took your retirements away, and caused the highest rate

of poverty in history. Same result! Get over it!
"a poor man who votes Republican is an idiot."
#15
Friday, July 31, 2009 12:30:11 AM
I can't believe you wasted all that typing on a bunch of ****
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