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Is the iPod a goner?

Hidden in the giddiness of Apple's earnings is the fact that iPod sales have been falling.

Posted by Charley Blaine on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:00 PM

Charley BlaineTime to start mourning the death of the iPod.

 

Yes, the iPod. Maybe it's just creative destructionism at work, but it looks like Apple's (AAPL) iPod music player is now a declining product line.

 

And while Apple was crowing -- probably rightly -- about its latest quarter, it's worth looking at what's going on with the company's product mix.

 

So, here's the story:

 

Apple said it earned $1.35 a share in its fiscal third quarter, up 13.5% from $1.19 a share a year ago. Revenue was $8.34 billion, up 11.7% from a year ago.

 

Wall Street had estimated earnings of $1.17 a share and revenue of $8.2 billion. Apple

 

The stock, down 0.5% to $151.51 in regular trading, jumped 4.5% after hours to $158.25.

 

If the price holds on Wednesday, the shares would end the day up 85% on the year.

 

Right now, Apple is generating more revenue from its iPhones than it does from the iPod. iPhone sales hit $1.69 billion in the fiscal-third quarter, up 303% from a year ago. Apple literally can't get the devices made fast enough.

IPod sales were down 11.1% to $1.49 billion. Unit sales were down 7% year over year and 7% from the fiscal second quarter.

 

And the trend will continue. Peter Oppenheimer, Apple's chief financial officer, said the company expects sales of the traditional iPod to decline as features are cannibalized by the iPhone and the skinny iPod touch.

 

That's not the only Apple product experiencing sales declines. Sales of the desktop versions of the Macintosh computer are falling as customers switch to laptop versions of the Mac.

 

Unit sales of desktops fell 10% in the third quarter; revenue fell 17.8%. Part of the problem may be that desktops aren't cool.

 

Another issue may be that publishing companies, who use Macs to produce magazines, newspapers and the like, are simply not buying because their business is lousy.

 

Now, laptop sales were up 12.9% to 1.75 million units, but revenue for the laptops was actually down 1.7%. But Apple's having problems meeting demand on these products as well.

 

So, what does all this tell us about Apple? It remains a most amazing manufacturer and marketer of interesting products.

 

And not just the iPhone. Its iTunes business generated $958 million in sales in the quarter, up 17% from a year ago.

 

It's an even better manufacturer of buzz. Half the buyers of its computers at its retail stores had never owned a Mac before. The iPhone seems to be drawing in customers.

 

But if Apple didn't have the iPhone and its iTunes business, investors would be complaining about stagnant sales.

 

Sales of Macs and iPods were down 8.8% year over year.

 

For the fourth quarter, Apple expects revenue of $8.7 billion to $8.9 billion and earnings of $1.18 to $1.23 a share. Wall Street is expecting $1.30 a share and revenue of $9.1 billion.

 

Don't pay attention to Apple's guidance. As noted on Monday, the company always underestimates. Their guidance for the third quarter was revenue of $7.7 billion to $7.9 billion, 8% below what was actually reported.

 

As of today, Apple is the 22nd-best performer among stocks in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index ($INX) and and 10th among stocks in the Nasdaq-100 Index ($NDX.X).

 

It's the 18th-most-valuable company in the world. Its $135 billion market capitalization is greater than General Electric (GE) and Chevron (CVX)  and nearly as big as JPMorgan Chase (JPM).

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:59:30 PM
I've never had to pay for the basic updates.  The ony ones I have seen that cost are the ones with flashy (useless) features.  I agree with the Blackberry comment, haven't carried my Ipod video as much now that you can play AAC files on a Blackberry.  Now if only the videos would work.....
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:47:50 PM

iPod will retain market share simply because there's no other real front-runners anymore. Zune? (lol) The only reason why sales are declining is market saturation, it doesn't mean the Ipod is a goner, it just means less people need an mp3 player.

 

I find itunes to be about the biggest crock in the industry, my wife has to keep paying to update her software just to continue itunes functionality with her iPod, when she couldn't care less about the "upgrades" they provide.

 

That being said it's a really slick piece of hardware, the iPod touch 2g is amazing in my opinion.

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:32:09 PM
I have an Ipod that rarely gets used since I now have a Blackberry Storm - not only does it come with an 8 gb Micro SD that I have 1000's of songs stored on it also has a free application of Pandora - streamed music as well as Slacker. I plug into my truck the same way I do with an Ipod and voila - music without commercials in any genre of my choice, played through my truck stereo. I have also gotten rid of the 12.95 per month satellite radio.
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:14:21 PM
So YOU don't back up your library and that is Apple's fault?  Amazing concept.  I'm not saying that Itunes or the Ipods are perfect, but they just seem way ahead of the competition.  I have owned other MP3 players, but have gone to exclusively using Ipods because they really are that much better.
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:03:00 PM
u have no idea what ur talking about
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:58:10 AM

I feel bad for those foolish enough to buy an iPod.  I had one of the fairly early generations and had nothing but problems.  Within the first year, I had to send the device back to Apple twice to have the battery replaced.  Unfortunately, during one of those episodes, my PC crashed.  It was a loaner PC from work, so I had no backups, etc.  Needless to say, I lost iTunes and the 2,000+ songs that I had loaded from CD....CDs that I had owned, borrowed, etc.

Anyone that has used iTunes extensively knows where this is going.  I rebuilt the PC and re-installed iTunes.  Naturally, since I had lost everything, my new library was blank.  As soon as I plugged in the iPod and let it sync, it overwrote everyting on the iPod and replaced it with my new, blank library. 

 

Instead of borrowing a whole host of music and reloading the 2000+ songs, I got rid of the iPod and got a Samsung.  After 3 years, I have not had a single issue with the Samsung. 

 

In my experience, the iPod is the most overrated piece of consumer electronics I've ever come across and I could have been shed of mine soon enough.

 

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:37:54 AM
I have a MacBook, a Mac Air, an I-Mac, and an I-Pod--all cool sexy items. On the down side: The snob factor when you walk into an Apple store--one practically has to beg for an audience with the "Geniuses..."  The limits on software apps... The high cost for hardware...  I need a laptop that allows handwriting recognition and an active digitizer (for grading papers). There is nothing forthcoming from Apple, so I'm crossing over.  It may not be sexy, but form can't always triumph over function (or price).
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:23:53 AM
you're an idiot
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:18:42 AM
oops I guess they already did and what do you know, looks like an ipod touch how f&^% pathetic.  Reminds me of the movie duplicity
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:15:20 AM
One more thing since this article basically comes from microsoft, why dont you guys write an article on the 100 million potentially lost on the zune from december of 07-08 or the fact that the zune was down 54% in January.  And you have an article about 7% haha you cant even use the zune on a mac.  Why dont you microsoft people go make a zune touch Im sure that will be next.  Will just as soon as apple patent goes away?Open-mouthed
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:08:58 AM
I guess the fact that ipod touch growing 130% from last year means the business is hurting in that department.  Newsflash everyone Ipod department is doing fine.  Slowly they are weeding out the ipod for newer technology if that wasnt obvious.  You think they care ipod sales are down when ipod touches are minimum 30 dollars more than a nano.  Ipod down 7% and ipod touch up 130%, Im no genius but I think if you do the math its a win win situation.  As far as the person complaining about getting their ipod and not being able to get it fixed....You obviously did something to it and now your mad they wont fix it cause everything I own is Apple.  (sorry but in my mind bill gates is a hack and copycat)  Now I wont say ive never had a problem with apple products cause I have, but I will say its nice to go in and get it fixed.  Hell one time they gave me a new computer to replace my old one cause if my inconvenience.
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:46:36 AM
I totally understand why the iPhone and iTouch are taking over the iPod... it's just the natural progression.  Apple still DOES make the "classic" and "nano" etc. if you want the click wheel & no internet...  I have the iTouch and LOVE it.  The only reason I don't have iPhone is b/c I don't have a land line phone at home and AT&T does not get ANY reception at all (like ZERO bars) in my building.  That, IMO, is an AT&T problem and not an Apple problem.
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:41:16 AM
I agree totally with anthx.  Apple's quarter was a blow-out, and the guy who wrote this article is clearly an idiot.  How about the number of "Apps" that were sold for the i-phone and the number of songs downloaded on i-tunes.  Apple just keeps inventing revolutionary was to make money that the rest of the industry hasn't even thought of yet and is always copying trying to catch up.  It is an amazing company that will continue to generate huge earnings and exciting new products.  Buy the stock!
Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:27:05 AM
My iphone is my ipod and as long as people are buying one or the other, Apple will be happy.
Incidentally, Ipods can be used with multiple itunes account. Just disable autosynch and manually click and drag the songs from your itunes to your ipod.

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:05:16 AM
IPod in trouble?  Not hardly.  I love the "market reports" and the one sided, figures manufactured to fit the article that constantly appears on MSN.  MSN, that is owned by Microsoft that makes the ZUNE.  The market report is on the iPod NANO and classic that is losing against the iTouch.  I do agree that the "use only our software and we are not letting you share" aspect of the iPod is criminal...but the units are burring the ZUNE.  Microsoft needs to quit copying Apple, Google, and other companies that work and concentrate on fixing VISTA and all there other buggy programs.
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