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Bill Fleckenstein

Contrarian Chronicles7/6/2009 12:01 AM ET

What's next: Inflation or deflation?

Isn't the 'winner' clear by now? Not to some people, who've overlooked the evidence that's been in place for some time.

By Bill Fleckenstein
MSN Money

Sometimes it is just amazing how wrong the market (and thus most professional investors) can be. It seems that an obvious outcome is not so obvious if its onset is delayed long enough.

One year ago, as I explained in my June 23 and June 30 columns, it appeared to me that the die had been cast for the economic disaster we've since experienced. Rereading those columns last week, it's hard to believe the Dow Jones industrials ($INDU) were still flirting with 12,000 back then.

I bring this up because, as regular readers know, the winner in the inflation-versus-deflation battle seems clear to me (though the timing of that "victory" certainly isn't). However, the battle continues to inspire much debate on Wall Street and in the financial news media. And I continue to get tons of questions in the Q&A section of my daily Web site.

I feel compelled to revisit the subject yet again, with a little help from my friend Jim Grant -- who, in the latest issue of Grant's Interest Rate Observer, makes important points that I find mandatory to pass along.

Not your father's, mother's . . .

Grant starts off by quoting the Bureau of Labor Statistics regarding the fact that May's 1.3% drop in the Consumer Price Index was the largest decline since April 1950:

"It's a funny deflation, though. Deflation, to us, is too much debt chasing too little income. One symptom of deflation is falling prices. In a proper deflation, prices fall broadly, not narrowly. Seventeen months into the Great Depression, the CPI had fallen by a cumulative 8.1%. This time around, December 2000 to date, it's risen by 1.8%."

. . . or second cousin's (once removed) deflation

Grant then notes that although the steel industry is operating at a capacity utilization rate of below 50%, AK Steel (AKS, news, msgs) was raising prices for the second time since May. "If deflation it be, it's deflation light," he says.

As Grant's colleague Ian McCulley points out, "If we are truly in a sustained deflation, price decreases will eventually spread." And Jim notes: "It hasn't happened yet. Core CPI, which includes food and energy, is 1.8% higher than it was last year. Though its rate of rise has slowed (a year ago, it was rising at an annual pace of 2.3%), it continues to hold above the level to which it sunk during the great deflation scare of 2002-2003."

McCulley proceeds to observe that the Cleveland Fed has its own alternative measure of CPI and that by virtue of its calculation methodology, "it is thus a less volatile price index than headline CPI, and is currently rising by 2.4% year-over-year."

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That wasn't deflation beleaguering Budapest

That's not all. Many folks believe that with the economy operating so far below its potential output and with high levels of unemployment, inflation can't possibly happen.

Grant says that would be "a perfect theory, if not for the existence of so many countervailing facts. Bolivia recorded a monthly inflation rate as high as 120% in 1984-86 with unemployment rates in the mid- to upper teens. Bulgaria recorded a monthly inflation rate as high as 242.7% in 1997 with unemployment rates ranging between 12.5% and 13.7%. The greatest hyperinflation of them all was not the 1920-23 German affair but the Hungarian calamity of 1945-46, which occurred in a war-ravaged economy operating well below pre-1939 levels of resource utilization."

Grant sums up his thoughts on the inflation front as follows: "What strikes us is what small effect a mighty debt collapse has had. It makes you fear -- almost -- for prosperity."

Let's hope all of those salient points will assist folks in deciding whether they think we will see deflation or inflation in the future.

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Friday, July 03, 2009 11:06:56 PM

Article is about as informative as watching CNBC.  Said really nothing of informative value (except AK Steel comment, assuming it is true), come on Bill, I know you're a columnist but hey that is no excuse for "Reporting Light".  Get with it or get out!

Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:46:43 AM
I agree. Grow some balls, Bill.
 
Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:55:35 PM
Everyone in the world is talking U.S. inflation and the tanking of the dollar, even Bill the Contrarian. It makes a real contrarian take pause and search for the reality of the situation. Inflation is not going to kick up overnight, if at all. This Deflationary cycle will be drawn out over ten years and prices will fall slowly. This stuff does not happen over night. There might be a blip up here and there but the trend is down. The best thing to happen to the country is that Obama seems to be on the right track. Invest in the future. The old money guys say Windmills are a waste because they can only produce 1% of energy. They forget that the Model T had to be cranked started and driven top speed 20 miles per hour. If we are borrowing from our children we should be investing for the future. I remember when a million was a lot of money. Don't be scared off by big numbers. This is a big powerful country.  Get Health Care reform done. 75% of Medicare dollars are spent on a persons last year. Infrastructure and Technology investment should be on top of the agenda. 
Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:21:56 PM
Inflation and deflation are two sides of the same coin and both are always with us to varying degrees.  Wars, pumping dollars and more debt, and globalization have been used for years to sustain what we call progress, which are debt driven illusions.  Luckily, America has real wealth in  the blessings of fertile lands, diverse people, natural resources and geography.  Happy Independence Day.   
Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:00:14 AM
Open-mouthed
Well,that's great..steel Co. thinks they will raise prices to get out the hole..?
Nice try, but NOT helping business yoyo. Keep it up and AK may not be in business long..
LOWER your prices AK ASAP. Was wondering why steel prices had not come down,and now I know.

Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:00:10 PM
The collapse of the real estate market.. the price of a home, probably the most expensive item one would ever purchase and the biggest expense check one writes every month, has fallen by 40-50%. Now THAT is not deflation????
Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:02:26 PM
The dollar is on a see-saw.  It is being manipulated for different reasons.  That makes it hard to invest.  No clear picture of deflation or inflation has shown up because of the dollar and it's effect on everything else.  I think that Bernanke is smart and is using the dollar to keep the see-saw level.  Who can guess what will happen if he loses control of it.  When commodities go too high, he makes the dollar go up.  When exports go down he makes it go down.  Etc., Etc., Etc.
Monday, July 06, 2009 12:56:35 AM
If 75% of healthcare is spent in the last year of life, who is going to put a price on life and tell the family that their grandmother is the subject of a cost cutting measure?
Monday, July 06, 2009 5:40:38 AM
Thanks for the info FIRSTCALL. I didn't believe it before the supreme leader was elected and I sure as hell don't believe the bull now! Go away!
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Monday, July 06, 2009 5:48:06 AM
That article was nothing but fluff; almost sounding like the abamination.  You need to get a pair and get in the game there Bill!
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