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Contrarian Chronicles8/3/2009 12:01 AM ET

Recession has ended, but pain hasn't

We like hearing experts say one sector or another has hit bottom because we take it to mean better times lie ahead. It's time to rethink that assumption.

By Bill Fleckenstein
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Recently I have been struck by the number of talking heads declaring that the housing market or economy has bottomed, along with their expectation of what comes next -- i.e., the recent Newsweek Magazine cover: "The recession is over. Good luck surviving the recovery."

To state the obvious, the reason there's always such an intense focus on the "bottom" is because of the implication of what comes next: better times.

I think that in most people's minds, it is assumed that after something bottoms out, the recovery will be rather strong, if not V-shaped. Not necessarily.

Throw out the rule book for this recovery

The economy stopped getting worse sometime during the first quarter. It has benefited from massive amounts of money printing, inventory restocking and better business prospects in Asia. But I think the most important point for folks to understand is that it's not business as usual.

The United States is going through something unprecedented: The collapsed credit/real estate bubble (which followed the collapse of a stock bubble), and the attendant economic consequences (not the least of which has been the distinct inability to create jobs on the heels of a brutal bloodletting), have prompted a massive outpouring of quantitative easing.

Of course, further complicating the handicapping of future economic activity is that the once-radical view that unemployment is intractable has now become mainstream, almost ensuring some unforeseen wrinkle.

None of this was surprising. Given what occurred in the credit bubble, many of us expected just such a horrendous economic period. But that has been fought with (also predictable) money printing on the part of the Fed and other central banks, which is what's called quantitative easing.

So what rages today is the battle between two epic forces: the credit collapse and money printing. The battle has many ramifications. For the financial markets, the quantitative easing and a few less-bad-than-expected economic developments have helped produce the rallies just described. But that does not necessarily mean that a much better economy and job creation lie dead-ahead.

And, after all, we haven't even begun to deal with the implications of the funding crisis I've discussed more than once.

Thus, I would urge folks to be slower to leap to conclusions and more open-minded about the potential economic and financial road map, keeping in mind the forces at work in the background. Their ramifications will be with us for quite some time.

If I had to give one side of the battle the upper hand, I'd give it to money printing, as I have with my investments.

An SEC (belatedly) full of fire and brimstone

Regular readers know that selling stocks short has been part of my investment strategy. Which brings me to the "new" Securities and Exchange Commission rules.

Essentially, these are the rules it introduced last fall aimed at continuing a crackdown on naked short selling. (Until then, the SEC had never bothered to enforce the rules regarding this illegal practice. Sound familiar?)

To which I say: better late than never.

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Get ready for the (slow) recovery
There are signs the recession may end in coming months, but the U.S. economy's recovery is likely to be so painfully slow that many won't feel the difference. David Wessel reports.

However, I would like to voice my objection to the innuendo that somehow short-sellers drive prices lower. Lower share prices are a function of the business, the economy, bad luck and/or mismanagement -- not short-sellers. What short-sellers often do is to warn of impending problems. How many in government, corporate America or the media at large do that? It's time to place blame where it's due, not where it's convenient.

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:33:03 AM
The recession has only ended for a select few ... there is too many people struggling to survive just to put food on the table and are so far behind. For these people it is almost impossible to save and are being eaten up with interest if they have any credit left. Taxes are up, utilities are up, and food prices are climbing. Few are buying, unless they already have money, so that is not helping the economy. Each week more stores are closing. More people out of work.
School are profiting telling people to seek a new career, only to get out and find out there are no jobs available, in the field they selected or they need experience in that field to be considered for the job. If they fall behind on their credit their credit report  that will affect  them getting a decent job.
The big picture looks like more doom and gloom coming for the average american.

Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:37:58 PM
Newsweek and MS Money think the recession is over?  ....No, I don't think so.  ...In the first hour the Titanic sank 500 feet.  In the second hour it sank another 500 feet, in the third hour it sank another 500 feet, in the fourth hour it sank 500 feet, in the fifth hour it sank 400 feet and came to rest on the bottom of the sea.  Captain Obama swam onto the deck and announced that the crisis was over as his policies had severely reduced the rate of descent.  He urged the passengers to have patience as his $787 billion iceberg avoidance program would be up and running in 2010.  Newsweek announced that only due to Obama's expert sailing was the crisis not worse. 
Monday, August 17, 2009 7:15:21 PM

The pain is just beginning, cities are scouring monies from wherever they can. Deficits are becoming nightmares. When will we see change? Well the change will begin when we "Americans" can start to see the reality. Add the numbers up debt plus the people without debt. Debt is created everyday; gettting pulled over, skipping a bill, adding a utility, unexpected occurences, and most of all cost of living day to day. Money is debt. A new beginning maybe??LOLWilted rose 

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:48:03 AM

I want to bring attention to the astronomical problem we have in California Real Estate, and the blame of the current RE situation falls right at the feet of the banks.

They are not releasing foreclosed homes for sale nor are they making short sales easy (and quick) to satisfy the MILLIONS of eager buyers who by all rights, should be enjoying a robust buyer's market at this time.

Yes, we have has 2 moratoriums on foreclosures since April 1st, but our local board of realtors have only a 7 to 14 day inventory of homes, 85% of those are short sales.  The banks are not willing to fix any problems to allow a house to be financed by FHA and VA and most say cash only. The majority of homes are only qualifying for conventional financing, so that the bank doesn't need to comply with the minimum habitability standards for FHA/VA. Even if a home has been vandalized, they still want top dollar for it.

Because of the lack of inventory, offers are flying in at record speed on what is available (I know of 1 house that has 72 offers on it), the prices are skyrocketing again.  The Appraisals are coming in much lower than purchase price and now the banks are demanding that the buyer makes up the difference (between accepted price and appraised value) in cash.

Short Sales aren't much different.  It takes so long to get one through that many times, the property that was listed for a certain amount (listing prices and commissions are not guaranteed) has gone up in price (according to them), so the bank will raise the purchase price. Unfortunately, the Appraisal does not support new price.  This has happened on my last 3 deals, and many of my colleagues have experienced the same issues.

Since the banks are enjoying TARP money and paying zero to little interest on the bailout money, they really don't have an incentive to work through this crisis.  In fact, if they can hold out for higher prices while not increasing their expenditures, well that's just icing on the cake.  They are truly not inclined to help us out of this financial debacle, as they are actually making profits.  We need to spread the word and have this entire problem investigated. The jobs of many Californians depend on Real Estate and we need to get our industry back on it's feet. I certainly don't want prices to be what they were 4 years ago, however a reasonable Real Estate market is good for everyone. 

Monday, August 10, 2009 3:47:39 PM

.The recession has ended???  Tell that to our sales team.  From what we can see, it is as brutal as ever.

 

I guess, since the media started this recession by beating the recession drum until it finally stuck, maybe the media can end it just by saying so.

 

This is a recession completely generated by media fueled hysteria and it didn't need to happen.  Wall Street isn't the whole USA economy.  It isn't even a big part of the economy.   Tying the economic health reports to Wall Street is juvenile economics at best.

 

Even now, most people have the same jobs as they did two years ago with about the same income, but they are afraid to spend money, so a recession is created and propogated.

Monday, August 10, 2009 6:52:15 AM
I wonder if any of us will know what will happen tomorrow .. other that it can't be good news!
Sunday, August 09, 2009 1:00:34 PM
Patrick I agree with you.  They won't hire my wife but they want her to spend the money I'm making at their store.  Screw them.  Groceries and necesities is all I'm sepending these days.
Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:46:44 PM
Buy American people.  Cash for clunkers is our cash helping foreign automakers beat the recession.  America first and the heck with our so called allies.
Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:00:05 AM

Bill, I would love to see you comment on the fact that the stock price of AIG doubled in the two days before its August 7th announcement that they made a profit for the first time in seven quarters. I have sent a complaint to the SEC....I encourage others to do also.

 

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Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:48:41 PM

Bill F.  You know what in the heck are you smoking, you know... are you truly a free lance writer from Cali....  Hum perhaps this is the case and I would bet you have a prescription for medical mary jane too..!!

 

To all that think getting a job is easy... I wonder how you would fair in a time when jobs are few and far between...  I have got over 170 applications and or resumes out and have been interviewed 10... if that... a lot of places that were hiring are no longer interested because of the fact all businesses are smarter then your average bear and know the worst hasn't even hit us yet...!!  You screw nuts want to call us lazy....  you have no f ing clue what it takes for anyone that has been off of work for any amount of time to just not up and go postal on anyone and everyone, you my friends are the ones that are the morons, as you are the ones that are stuck in the old way of thinking and have no want or reason to want to change things for the better, just because you still may hold you 20 or more $$ a hour job you all think your better then anyone else....  Tell you what bud, I put my pants on the same way you do, my shirt, socks, and shoes!!  Your not better your just afraid of what is coming and that my friend is the fact that and this goes for all of you..... and you know who you are, and if you are that dumb....  if any part of what i have said yet has got you spitting tacks... YOUR THE ONE I AM TALKING ABOUT....   What is good for the goose is good for the gander and you the fat cats that have enjoyed the fact that you can screw us the little guys over is coming to a much needed and overdue end.

 

And God... Is Not The Answer Either..!!!

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