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Contrarian Chronicles8/10/2009 12:01 AM ET

A pessimist's prediction: Hyperinflation

Does the Fed's massive money printing mean inflation is about to soar? I'm not jumping on that bandwagon, but gold is still an attractive bet right now.

By Bill Fleckenstein
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Last week's 26-year high in the price of sugar must have stuck in the craw of the deflationist camp, those who fear a bout of falling prices. And that's as good a segue as any to the inflation-vs.-deflation debate.

I've spilled plenty of ink on this important topic (for example, read "What's next: Inflation or deflation?"), and this week I'd like to turn to a friend of mine, Marc Faber, for his assessment.

Marc's most recent Gloom, Boom & Doom Report contains an excellent discussion of inflation vs. deflation, and he makes the connection between the policies we're pursuing -- massive stimulus to create inflation, due to the fear of deflation -- and the funding crisis that I have warned about that will arrive as the U.S. has trouble financing its increasing debt. (Read "Why creating jobs is so hard.")

I decided to quote liberally from Marc's report. But I encourage folks to read it in its entirety. (Here's the Gloom, Boom & Doom Web site; a subscription is required.)

For newer readers who continue to ask me to elaborate on this subject, hopefully Marc's commentary will bring them up to speed:

Deflation can be avoided through debt and money printing. This isn't to say that I support such policies, or that I find deflation to be "bad" and inflation to be "good." (Price stability is the most desirable condition.) But the point is that if a government is really determined to inflate its problems away, it can be done. Those people who believe in deflation have, however, some strong arguments. Their principal contention is that the economy is so weak (output gap) that the private sector's contraction cannot be offset by government spending and money printing.

In fact, the massive money printing and the rest of the stimulus are why gross domestic product has held up as well as it has. More from Marc:

The deflationist argues that, because we have a weak economy, we shall have deflation; an argument with which I would tend to agree in the very short term.

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Marc Faber on the risk of hyperinflation
The editor and publisher of the Gloom, Boom & Doom Report says there's a good chance for hyperinflation in the US.

I believe that in fact we have passed the point of maximum downside pressure. But more from Marc:

A true deflationist will also argue that because of deflation, economic conditions will worsen and, therefore, long-term U.S. government bond yields will decline. . . . But what happens to fiscal deficits and monetary policies under a scenario of a further decline in economic activity and a further collapse in asset prices? The answer is very simple. Deficits will increase further and more money will be printed. And the longer weakness in the economy prevails under the deflationary scenario, the more fiscal deficits will pile up and the more easy monetary policies will be pursued.

So, whereas near-term deflation is a distinct possibility, in the longer term inflation is more likely because of several factors. When the economy recovers (and the recovery is likely to be fragile), the Fed will be very reluctant to increase short-term rates. Another reason for the Fed's reluctance in this respect will be the size of the government debt, given that higher interest rates would increase the interest burden. Therefore, I can't imagine any scenario under which the Fed wouldn't keep interest rates at an artificially low level, as it also did post-2001. That such a monetary policy, combined with the growing fiscal deficits discussed above, is more likely to lead to inflation rather than deflation should be clear.

Continued: The funding crisis

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:53:40 AM
The Fed has to create inflation through printing dollars that are paper only which creates inflation.  Maybe tho it will not and here is why: Inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods and in this case there are plenty of goods to be had.  Deflation is too many goods without enough dollars to buy them thus prices have to come down.  I'm betting on hyper inflation due to the amount of money being printed.  The commodities are rising and that is a good sign that inflation is coming.  As for oil, OPEC is not the bad guy this time.  The good old "speculators" at the Mercantile market is the villian here.  It is a place that can produce a return on investment as long as you and I need fuel.  A sad dahy is arriving fast pushed by this Admin to take us the rest of the way down.  It is sad inded..Sad
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:10:48 PM
The Iraq war was not the cause of oil price inflation.  OPEC is the primary cause.  The cartel controls the oil prices for the world.  Except for Saudi Arabia, the rest of the oil nations can't make decent ROI (return on investment) on the money invested in their petroleum infrastructure if  oil is below $70 per barrel.  That's why oil closed at $71.62 today (08/26/2009). 
Monday, August 24, 2009 12:48:28 PM

Interesting how collectables still have value in any currency.

I mean real stamps and US coins.  My Walking Liberty half-dollars are now worth 1000 % of their original value.  Morgan silver dollars are now worth 125 % to 500 % of their original value.

 

Stamps, oh well,  complete collections are worth mind-boggling amounts in dollars---but I would only trade for real value GOLD.

 

I literally exchange my spare change (and dollars ) for silver coins and rare stamps as often as possible. 

 

Remember, silver certificates??---that were exchangeable for silver coins of like denomination??---until banks REFUSED to honor the promise on the note???  Dollar bills, then, became toilet paper.

 

The rule is:  DON'T HOLD DOLLARS.   Find things of real value and exchange your dollars.   Except, KEEP YOUR DEBT---and pay it with toilet paper.

Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:46:05 AM

bush did it! a war we didnt have the right to start!

that sent gas to plus $4.00 a gal, oh and wasnt he going to go to mars too,

BIG BAD W!

Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:40:47 AM
One year ago John McCain said what about the economy?Gore in 2000 was mocked for wanting a "LOCKBOX" on what?  Who drove us over a cliff a year ago? When the Coyote looks down that is when he falls to the canyon floor below  ...BEEP...BEEP...Obama is responsable for none of our current problems... In 2 years yes... now? NO! sorry.. go watch that All American Aussie network ... Glen mormon Beck?The Mormons teach there was a huge civilization in the Great Plains... Evidence? Who needs that when you have an "Open Mind?"
Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:40:46 AM

In order for inflation to take hold, there has to be a willingness to spend.  No such trend exists at the current time.  Tight credit policies at banks and credit card merchants, and unemployment have taken the wind out of the sails of what would ordinarily be inflationary policy. 

 

Perversely, the people who chose to save now rather than spend will be punished should inflation take off.  I've been buying durables like mad, knowing that in the future my debt will be cheaper than the asset, especially when factoring in opportunity cost.

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31:46 AM
Interesting comments. Remarkable, however, that not one mentions the part that Chris Dodd and Barney Frank played in this during 2005 - 06 when they were loudly touting the "right" of those of low income, and even illegal aliens, to purchase a home when they had no collateral. I'm no fan of the Republicans, either, but this one falls squarely on the Dems - something largely ignored by the press. God help us - we're still asleep at the switch.  
Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14:48 AM

screwthat -- just remember how shoddy the previous 8 years were that someone was elected based on hope and change. Remember the deregulation of monetary policies between 2000-2008 that occured which facilitated us being in this mess. Remember that the government was in the the green prior to the previous administration. Remember that the administration before that signed NAFTA, which caused jobs to go to Canada and Mexico. How ignorant are all you people that  you blame Obama for ruinging everything in 200 days. The reason he has been able to push so hard is because the previous administration speant 8 years on kneepads catering to what the top 2% of this country wanted.

 

By no means has Obama been succesful, but he hasn't been waving a "Mission Accomplished" banner around. His health care plans are ridiculous, and focus should be on SS and Medicare reform. Yes they should have death panels or whatever the hell they are called, i'd be damned if my money is going to some person on their deathbed just so that they can live a couple more months. That is the drain on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. Keeping people alive.  Maybe Logan's Run had it right ...

Friday, August 14, 2009 9:36:06 PM
Food is the most essential basic necessity.  You may be right and the cost of food may also go down , but relatively the least. 
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Friday, August 14, 2009 10:41:06 AM
That makes no sense whatsoever.  if the input prices for food production are going down as you claim 'everything but food will be in deflation' such as fuel, machinery, chemicals, labor cost and land, why would food prices increase.  I'm not taking a side in the inflation vs deflation argument but your thesis is nonsense.  It's either all or none.
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