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Michael Brush

Company Focus6/3/2009 12:01 AM ET

Coming: A 3rd wave of foreclosures

The next group of Americans to lose their homes seemed to have good credit and affordable loans. But those families have been walloped by the recession.

By Michael Brush
MSN Money

There's a simple reason you shouldn't get too excited about the "green shoots" of an economic turnaround.

In the housing market, a lot of prime mortgages are becoming subprime as a new wave of foreclosures begins to hit. Mainstream homeowners -- those previously "safe" borrowers with sound credit who have conservative, fixed-rate mortgages -- are getting into trouble at an alarming rate.

In the first quarter, the percentage of these borrowers who were behind on their mortgages or in foreclosure had doubled from a year earlier, to nearly 6%. For the first time in the housing crisis, these homeowners accounted for the largest share of new foreclosures.

Job losses are a major reason once-safe borrowers are falling into trouble. With unemployment likely to rise, the problem will only get worse. So the core challenge at the heart of our economic crunch -- a poor housing market that infects banks and the whole credit system -- is not going away soon. That's bad news for the stock market and the economy in general.

"A couple of months ago, a lot of people had hoped that the housing collapse was about over," says money manager and forecaster Gary Shilling, a well-known bear who called the housing problems early in the cycle. "But it was more hope than reality."

The 3rd wave of woe

Economists call rising delinquencies and foreclosures among prime borrowers the third wave of trouble. The first two waves were housing speculators going bust and subprime borrowers -- those with poor credit histories and some version of no-down or low-down adjustable-rate mortgages -- getting into trouble.

Mark Zandi, the chief economist for Moody's Economy.com, calls the third wave a "significant threat" to the economy. "It is gathering momentum," he says. "The problem is now well beyond subprime and deep into prime."

It will cause at least three problems that could shrivel the "green shoots":

  • Mounting foreclosures among prime borrowers will destroy their credit ratings, making it tough for them to contribute to growth by spending on credit.

  • Rising foreclosures will add to an already high level of housing inventory on the market, pushing down home prices even more. That will make people feel poorer, so they'll spend less. It also will tempt more people to walk away from mortgages, adding to the problem.

  • Foreclosures will mean more loan losses at banks, deepening the problems in the financial system.

Investment opportunities?

How do you play this as an investor? Well, if you missed the 30%-plus move off the bottom since early March but you're still confident enough to tiptoe back in, don't do anything more than that. Average in on down days.

Better yet, wait for the market pullback that this third wave makes more likely. Shilling has a bearish forecast of a trip down to 600 for the S&P 500 Index ($INX), more than a 30% decline from recent levels of 940.

Investors confident and daring enough to short stocks -- selling borrowed stock with the hope of buying it back later at a lower price -- may find profitable targets in the housing sector and among the regional banks. Homebuilder stocks look particularly tempting; they have risen more than 50% off their March lows on hopes for a quick recovery.

Whitney Tilson, a co-portfolio manager of the Tilson Focus Fund (TILFX) who also spotted the housing crisis early on, was recently short KB Home (KBH, news, msgs), Lennar (LEN, news, msgs) and Toll Bros. (TOL, news, msgs) in housing. He also has bearish bets against regional banks Regions Financial (RF, news, msgs), First Horizon National (FHN, news, msgs), Zions Bancorp (ZION, news, msgs) and New York Community Bancorp (NYB, news, msgs).

Continued: The 'subprime society'

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Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:58:21 AM
So Mr Michael Brush, what do you suggest for investors?  I can read about the problems all over the net.  How about your suggestions?
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:58:16 AM
This is my world crashing down on me.  I own apartments and I rent to poor people.  I more than most know what people are experiencing.  While my properties are struggling, the income they generate has not dropped significantly to threaten the payment of any loan.   Unfortunately, my loans are due this year and I am simply unable to borrow money to replace the loans I am currently servicing successfully.  What can I do?  All my captital reserves are gone, but effectively, I am loosing my job becasue the banking system and market will not allow me to borrow money.  If you bought my property today at the current market rate, your cash on cash return would be over 15%.  This type of return in the Atlanta Real Estate market has not been seen in decades.  When employment growth rises in Atlanta in 12 to 24 months, the cash on cash return will be over 20%.  I probably will not survive.  I will lose everything, my house, my business and my savings.  I will have to start all over, all because the credit markets are so risk adverse that they simply are unable to loan money unless there is an historically high cash on cash return.  Overcoming a 30% drop in asset values without credit is simply impossible.  Again, I can pay the mortgages.  That is what is so frustrating about my situation.
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:39:36 AM
fule price is going back up untill thier is control on this we will continue to see this problem.pople have no expindible income it all goes in the gas tank to gat to work.besnes charges a fule sure charge on a income tax deuctable expence.and dont pay taxes on that money that is free to them."where is my fule charge"!!! The goverment is going brook because popel are laid off and paying in less in taxes.witch will lead to inflation at more than triple diget. unless we get high wage jobs on the markits for thoes making 10,000 to 75,000 a year.if you never worked in life you get 10,000 from ssi if you didnt graduate from high school.the unemployable.we will have more of thies pople by the time social scurity runs out by half of thoes that are of age to retire
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:43:40 AM

While I’m not going to assert that there won’t be a Second (or third wave) of foreclosures, I do believe that those waves won’t be as intense or destructive as the first wave. The level of foreclosures here is still elevated, but much of the country has a much more stable housing market that the Bubble areas like Las Vegas, Florida and California.  Our excess foreclosure properties are still be snapped up at relatively bargain prices by local investors (and banks) and I just don’t see any trends suggesting additional spikes in volume.  I think that it’s also worth noting that Wells Fargo Bank is currently on the hook for over 10% of our foreclosures locally.  I though that they were in good shape, but that certainly doesn’t appear to be the case, at least not here.

 

http://www.allthingslouisville.com/Foreclosures/Search.aspx

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:11:22 AM
It seems Obama and company have totally lost sight of the cause of this financial crisis we are in....the housing market. Now that the Dems are in control it is all about their own agenda instead of really fixing the economy. If they do not get control of the housing market and get people back to work we will not come out of this anytime soon. A year ago the promises to fix the housing crisis were at the top of Obama's agenda, now where is it? We continue to see massive job loss. There is a looming cloud in commercial real estate. I cannot understand why anyone sees green shoots....we are in a lull before the next storm. Our so called leader needs to focus on 2 things jobs and the housing crisis and nothing else right now.
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:37:44 AM
Housing did not cause the problem !!!!!!!!! The  theory  of a chicken in ever pot caused this problem period.
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:01:39 AM

JESUS IS COMING SOON! ARE YOU READY???????

A---ADMIT YOU ARE A SINNER

B---BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS SAVIOR AND LORD

C---CONFESS ALL SINS

 

THERE ARE SOME THINGS MONEY JUST CAN'T BUY.

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:18:34 AM

I think what caused this was the Republicans chose to put all of the chickens in their own pots.  Them and their mega corporation & banker buddies!  True, Obama should have done something about the housing crisis by now, but this all started because of Republican policies over the previous 8 years.  Our current focus needs to be on getting the Obama admin. to fix housing, that will help. 

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:24:18 AM
Jesus is not coming, but the job losses are a problem. THERE ARE NO JOBS! No jobs = No money= forclosure, bankruptsy and this trickles down to everyone!
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Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:26:48 AM

The scenario described in this article is exactly the predicted consequences of the Senate’s failure to pass S.B. 61 back on April 30.  The amendment of Chapter 13 of the Bankruptcy Code would have allowed these defaulting prime borrowers the opportunity to  modify loans to reduce principal to current market value and still pay some of the principal loss to the lender over a five-year period.  Would the losses from modification have been any greater than the losses from the foreclosure?  If the borrower can see the possibility of equity at the end of a five-year Chapter 13 plan, then the borrower would have less incentive to walk away from an over-secured property.

 

S.B. 61 was part of Obama’s “three-legged stool” plan for housing recovery.  The President sat back and watched the Senate saw off one of those legs.

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