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10 things home insurers won't say

Your friendly home insurance company would rather you didn't know that you're paying too much. Or that it could drop you in a heartbeat if you file too many claims.

By SmartMoney

1. "We have our own caste system."

Sam Mayer, a physician in suburban Chicago, had insured his home, car and life with Metropolitan Life Insurance for 10 years without ever filing a claim, until a damaged roof and a burglary led to two claims totaling $3,000. Mayer promptly installed a home-security system. But instead of giving him a discount, the company dropped Mayer from its preferred coverage, citing his "claims history" and instead offered him its standard carrier at a higher rate -- even though his risk profile hadn't really changed.

("Homeowners insurers may sometimes offer a change in conditions of coverage of a consumer's policy at renewal in order to continue to offer a policy to that individual whose risk profile has increased," a MetLife spokesperson says. "This often occurs when a customer files more claims than average in a short period of time.")

Indeed, almost all insurance companies slot their policies into different categories, based on a variety of factors, including your credit scores and the location of your home. But even if your risk profile doesn't change in any substantial way, you might still be shifted from a company's preferred carrier to its more expensive counterpart, says Jim Davis, a retired public-information director of the Texas Department of Insurance.

"If you're not in the preferred carrier, ask why," urges Davis. Your agent -- or even the insurance company itself -- may be able to move you into a more favorable slot. Also, it's worth shopping around. A home that may be considered "high risk" for a small regional carrier could actually be deemed "preferred" by a bigger outfit such as State Farm.

2. "Anything out of the ordinary makes us really nervous."

Everyone knows that if your home is near the water or in an earthquake-prone area, insurers will shun you. Regulators can't do much about that. But some insurers use illegal underwriting guidelines to redline -- the industry term for "discriminate against" -- certain groups or locations.

For example, agents say they often get memos identifying undesirable ZIP codes or reminding them to stay away from couples who are having problems in their marriages. Bob Hunter, the director of insurance for the Consumer Federation of America, describes his "favorite" memo from a company advising its agents: "Before writing a policy, drop by the house after work hours and see if the owner is sitting on his porch in a T-shirt and drinking beer."

If you think you've been discriminated against, raise a fuss -- as did an elderly woman who was purchasing a home with a companion. She was denied coverage due to "an additional nonrelative listed as the named insured," even though all other information was acceptable under company guidelines, according to the agent's report. The woman contacted an attorney and the American Civil Liberties Union. The response: The insurance company said it had made an error and immediately offered coverage.

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3. "One wrong move and we'll drop you . . ."

As insurance companies tighten their belts, they're getting to be even more particular about whom they'll cover and whom they won't. You could potentially file just one claim and get tossed out, or you may not have to file a claim at all to have your coverage terminated. And once you've been dropped, very few insurers will want to touch you.

"Insurance companies are cold and hard," says independent agent Michael Grace of Baton Rouge, La. "They believe that if you get hit once, you'll probably get hit again."

That's what Mike Martin discovered after his Labrador took a nip at an appliance repairman and his insurance company paid out a claim. When his policy came up for renewal, he was shocked to learn that he was being dropped. Martin, a Maryland financial planner, says he spent the next couple of weeks frantically calling up insurance agents to get a new policy. But since dog bites are a red flag for insurers, he was frozen out.

Alarmed by his lack of coverage, the company holding his mortgage forced Martin to join a special "insurance pool," which cost five times as much as his original policy. It wasn't until he filed a complaint with the Maryland Insurance Administration that he got his original policy reinstated.

"I've seen people being discarded by their insurers for reasons much less ominous than a dog bite," the consumer federation's Hunter says. Some will drop you if you start an at-home business, while others will label you too risky if you've missed a credit card payment or two.

4. ". . . especially now that Big Brother is watching."

Privacy isn't so easy to hang on to in the information age. When it comes to home insurance, companies now have access to their own version of a credit report that reveals all sorts of information about you, sometimes even including past behavioral patterns. The most pervasive source of information is called the CLUE report, short for Comprehensive Loss Underwriting Exchange, which enables insurers to check the claims history of both the homeowner and the property being purchased in order to assess the risk of loss.

Insurers contend that they need such services to weed out dishonest customers who attempt to hide their claims histories. But the problem is, even when you have had legitimate claims in the past, you're guilty until proved innocent, says Linda Ruthardt, a former commissioner of insurance for Massachusetts. Once a person has been branded a high-risk applicant and rejected by one insurer, others are not likely to provide coverage.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 5:15:48 PM
OK, so what if I didn't read my policy, I want to keep my dog even though he bites, I want to live in old house with old wiring & plumbing, I've filed more claims than most other owners, and I live next to a river that floods every so often, I still want to treated like everybody else.  I don't care if they all have to pay more, just so I don't have to.  And it really annoys me that all those companies act like they're a business and want to make a profit.

Good grief.  How about writing something useful rather than to just bash the companies?  Better yet, since it's so easy and lucrative, how about starting a new insurance company so we can all sign up?
Monday, June 01, 2009 5:57:13 PM
nationwide has a "safe house" program where they'll leave you a 2-page fixit list and cancel you; in some cases, they want to go inside your home; i spent about $3000 on mine, it's the day after cancellation, and they've still not told me anything;
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:14:52 AM
A few years ago I received a particularly long list of new "exclusions" with my policy.  Some of them excluded things I really thought should be covered.  I took that as a good time to read the entire policy.  It seemed to exclude everything.  I called the agent and asked her for an example of something that would be covered by the policy.  She responded by telling me that I have one of the best policies available.  Nonetheless, she was unwilling or unable to think of a single example of an event that would lead to a valid claim.
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:26:15 AM
We have laws on truth in lending, perhaps it is time to have a law that required Insurance companies to fully disclose, and also require them to not be able to drop people from insurance, similar to some of the issues brought up in the the Credit Card User's bill of rights.
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:27:19 AM
ckb.ckb What insurance company do you work for?????When you need them they turn there back on you after years of payments.I live in Florida enough said.
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:59:36 AM
I had Allstate for home and vehicle for years, then had an accident with my vehicle that was deemed not my fault, had hail damage to my car and then a rock hit the windshield from a truck and I was suddenly DROPPED because they said I had too many "incidents".  After scurrying about to find new auto insurance, I went to the agency to change home insurance and was asked by the agent why I dropped my auto policy.  I explained that I didn't drop it, THEY dropped me!  He did some research and said there was no foundation for the drop and offered for me to come back to them for auto insurance at a MUCH reduced price.  I declined.  Who wants to risk getting dropped again for no real reason?  I changed my home owner's policy as well.
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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:02:20 AM
Seriously folks,  home insurance is not a maintenance policy.  Statistically speaking...if you have FOUR claims in five years, you ARE going to have more!  The whole concept of home insurance is SHARED RISK.  I get calls all the time from people who say, "But isn't that what I pay insurance for?!"  NO! You pay insurance to cover losses that you can't sustain on your own, (i.e.  Tornado, Fire, Wind Damage, Hail, etc), NOT because you spilled nail polish on your carpet and want it replaced.  AND, if your dog bit the repair man....what are the chances that it'll bite someone else?  VERY HIGH!  Why would an insurance company want to take that risk again.  Bottom line:  READ YOUR POLICY!
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:26:28 AM

Ok, so you want to keep your dog that nips the kid that was poking it with a stick (so says two neighbors), you file more claims than the average home owner because you DID read your policy and know what is covered, and you live next to a river that floods every so often... you know, a history of flooding twice in the last 90 years.

 

Insurance is a business but their idea is to maximize their profit by discriminating against those who they feel are a risk.. aka, someone who will break even or, god firbid, someone who will get more back through claims than they paid in... which wouldn't happen cause they would get dropped before this ever happened.  Insurance companies would still turn a profit if everyone paid similar amounts and everyone was covered with similar policies, barring some catastrophic nation-wide natural disaster.  However, they wouldn't be maximizing their profit.  Everyone is out to make the most amount of money, in the least amount of time... that's how we ended up with companies like AIG and Citigroup (banking AND insurance giants) that had to keep investing and risking their money to keep turning a larger profit, until they needed that capital to cover their "toxic" debt. 

 

People understand, of course, the exceptions of a home that isn't up to code or falling apart.  Why get upset over this article?  Oh yeah, because people shouldn't be informed!  I always forget that...

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:48:51 AM

i believe that it everyone's responsibility to understand what they are purchasing, including homeowner and automobile insurance, including life policies, and commercial insurance.  the policies spell out what you are entitled to, and what the endorsements mean.  all you have to do is read them.  if you have a questions, you should contact your agent.......an agent knowledgable about the body of the policy should have no problem explaining and giving examples of the insured's concern.  lets not kid ourselves, all business makes money, and the insurance companies are no exception. but we do have to understand that insurance is a "pool" of money and when there are catastrophic losses, we are "all" affected, whether it happens in your town, or clear accross the country. 

 

we have a responsibility, as consumers, to know what we are purchasing, and not blame the insurance companies, or the agent that represents the company, for "our" lack of knowledge about the product.

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:51:43 AM
Let's face the facts, Insurance is PRIVATIZED SOCIALISM established for profit which is distributed to a few.  Moreover, it is compulsory privatized socialism.  All one hears from the Reactionaries is the Socialization of America has come with the Obama administration.  Too late Bozos.  Socialism has been mandated by the Oligarchy!  Fight the tyrannical Insurance companies as vigorously please!
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:59:22 AM
great post!  I agree.  Why should I be paying for stupid people building on the Mississippi who are totally wiped out every five years and then expect their $500 a year policy give them a new house and furniture?  Well, maybe that is not so stupid.  Everyone likes new furniture, especially if someone else pays for it.
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:02:50 AM
Bozo, insurance is only mandatory in the case of auto insurance and it is your leftist Maxist Obama types which mandated it long ago.  Which party or left vs right ideology mandates seat belts and helmets?  Both great ideas, but the fact is that the leftist DO desire and DO dictate to you.  Pull your head.
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:12:27 AM

This is so funny.

 

You buy a house, the bank wants their butts covered in case of fire, tornado, total loss, so you have home owners insurance, in case of total loss, the bank gets paid off. 

If your dog bites someone, they also get paid off, or if the tree falls and crushes your garage, you might be covered as well.  Those are the perks.  The bank wants the insurance so in case of total loss your loan gets paid by the insurance. 

 

Why do you think your it is a requirement when you get the loan for your home to have the home owner's insurance, and why do you think it is required by the loan to maintain the insurance??

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:20:39 AM

If a company refuses to write or non-renews you and the reason is a claim made by previous owners, sometimes it helps to mention a call to the State's Insurance Commissioner is your next step. Works at lot of the time.

 

Also, having worked at an insurance agency I know "agency consideration" is big. An agency that produces a lot of premiums has a lot of clout with the company, so pick one with a very good reputation and a lot of important customers.

 

This business, like the banks, ain't what is used to be.

 

The stupidest thing that happened when I worked was a lady whose house had been struck three times by lightning, and the company rep sent me a letter requesting I tell Mrs. Whosit to do whatever she needed to to stop these claims. I told him he needed to talk to God. (It was, of course, a form letter. But what does that tell you)?

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:33:12 AM

To those of you who do not work in the business, let me explain some things. Insurance is meant as catastrophe coverage. You are are not meant to be covered every little claim you see fit to put it. Homeowners' insurance is meant to cover large, sudden and unexpected losses. If your dog bites someone once, that is sudden and unexpected. That same dog biting someone again? Not sudden and unexpected! It happened before, it will happen again. In my experience, people want all the bells and whistles but complain when the premium is higher than they would like. No, I don't get a discount because I have an insurance license and NO, I don't "work for the company." I work for an agency and pay the same rates as you. If you call my office, I will give you the best policy I can at the best price. I will also recommend flood insurance, jewelry coverage (if you have jewelry) and an umbrella policy. Why? because I feel you need to protect yourself and your assets as much as possible. Does insurance cover everything? No and it shouldn't. If you have a $500 deductible, raise it to $1,000. Stop putting in small claims and you won't get dropped. Your agent should be advising you of this and telling you how you can save money on your insurance. They should also be explaining your policy to you. If they can't tell you about your policy and what is/isn't covered, you need a new agent. We aren't all like the people you are describing.

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:55:40 AM
Not all insurance companies are equal, in the first place. I work for a captive agency.  If a home doesn't meet underwriting requirements and has been rejected by two companies, in Ohio there is a FAIR Plan insurance that may be offered.  The company we represent doesn't arbitrarily cancel policies - only for a large number of claims.  As far as dog bites we have certain breeds we cannot even consider.  If there has been a biting issue, unless the dog is put down we will nonrenew the policy.  The potential for very large lawsuits in the future is there once a dog has bitten.  This is good business practice for any company that looks at what the potential for loss is under any new acquisition, whether it be buying another business or taking on a new client.

Insurance is designed to prevent the client from sustaining a MAJOR FINANCIAL loss.  When you look at the premium compared to the potential payout of the insurance company, it's a great deal. If you think it's a ripoff, pay off your mortgage and cancel the insurance.  Instead of a $1,000 deductible you may have a loss with over a $500,000 deductible if your home and contents are destroyed.  It would take a very long time to pay enough premiums to equal one major homeowner claim.

As for the rebuild cost, add to the new construction cost the charges for demolition, cleanup, asbestos remediation (if the house is pre-1940), architectural fees, permits and temporary electric services.  Materials purchased for one claim will be more expensive than for a contractor building multiple properties as well. All these factors may not be as expensive in a new construction situation.

Oh, yeah, and if our clients are claim-free we GIVE THEM MONEY BACK!

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:13:49 AM

Your agent did not answer your question because if an answer to a hypothetical was provided and the company did not pay the claim if it arose in the manner described, you would then have an E&O claim for misrepresentation against your agent.  Further, Agents are not parties to the insurance contract and are prohibited from providing interpretations of the language.  Questions about coverage should be referred to an insurance company's customer service department, not your agent. 

 

The comments are very scary and shows that we truly do NOT understand principles of personal risk management.  The amount that we pay for insurance pales in comparison to the losses that we are insuring against.  No insurance policy covers everything or loss that could possibly occur.  The policies are designed to protect against the risk of catastrophic losses, not a dinged car door or cracked windshield on a 10 year old vehicle.  If you can afford to pay for the cracked windshield or door ding, do it.  Further, when a loss does occur, many folks see it as an opportunity to "make money" off of the claim.  That is not the purpose of the policy.  It is designed to indemnify, not enrich.

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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:19:52 AM

I am amazed at how this article generally bashes ALL insurance companies. I am an insurance agent and ALL companies are not bad, some are worse than others but, not all of them. People need to realize is that insurance is not a non-profit business, like all other businesses they to wish to make money. You need to research your company before you buy and read your policy, if you don't understand talk to your Agent--that's what they're there for.

 

Now as for the fact that everyone seems to think that insurance should cover everything, well that's naive. Insurance is to cover the big losses not the small petty things, this is how people get their policies cancelled. The company I represent would rather see one $15,000 claim than three $1000, it the claim frequency people. The average homeowner has a claim about every 7 years, so yeah if you have 3 claims in a year there's probably a problem and your company may drop you, but if you were the company in business could you blame them. Our society needs to get over their sense of SELF-ENTITLEMENT to where you think that everyone should be treated equally. Everyone is not equal, everyone is different and each home is different you choose the home you buy, the animal you have, the claims you  file and the company that insures you. You pay for the choices you make if YOU made a poor choice YOU pay for it, it's not supposed to be the insurance company just because you believe you're Entitled.

Lastly to set the record straight most insurance agents have your best interests at heart we don't recommend our best policy for our health, we recommend it because it provides "YOU" with the best coverage we can offer so in the event you have a claim I don't have to say I'm sorry but this policy doesn't cover that!! Be smart talk to an insurance professional for advice on how to lower your cost, what your policy covers and what could get you cancelled, don't listen to a columnist  who has no insurance license and may or may not even understand their policy.

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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:55:09 AM
After having worked in the insurance business for almost 40 years I can assure everyone out there that most insurance people are dedicated to protecting their clients from loss of major assets or life.  Most of the insurance employees you interact don't make the decisions on who gets a better price or who gets cancelled. They make very little money and are subjected to regular abuse from clients who take issue with paying money in exchange for protecting their most valuable assets such as their home, their house and their life.  What keeps us coming to work every day???  It is the satisfaction that comes with handing a family a check to rebuild their home after a devastating fire in which they've lost everything but the clothes on their back or giving a young widow a life insurance check that will help her feed her kids and pay the mortgage.  Trust me when I tell you that people who have suffered a serious loss will never debate having to make an insurance premium in the future and understand the concept of risk sharing (meaning your premiums go into a pot of money to pay large claims).  As with all industries and professions, there are good and not-so-great practices and nobody, including me, loves paying insurance premiums. But in the grand scheme of things it is a far better investment than the $3.00 cup of coffee many people buy every day without a single thought.
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:07:19 PM

Try reading your policy, researching companies and the policies they offer. They are not all the same and do not all cover the same things. Just like everything else you buy. You can buy a Lincoln or you can buy a Cavalier. I am an Insurance agent and can tell you I explain the coverage a policy offers and most customers cut me off and just wants the cheapest policy they can buy. They do not know what they are buying and don't care until they want to submit a claim. Insurance policies do not cover everything. I have never had a claim denied for which the policy afforded coverage and have seen many covered that should not have been. People that do not submit claims pay better rates. People that submit claims pay higher rates. Get used to it that is the way it should be. I cost the company less, so I should pay less. Insurance companies charge rates based on the likelihood of a claim. An older home that has not been updated is at greater risk of loss and will cost more to repair. That is a fact! Ask any repair man, handyman or builder.

 

In Maryland where I live and work. Insurance companies are required to submit their rules and rates to the MIA (Maryland Insurance Administration) and they must be approved. The Agents and Companies must follow the rules and treat everyone the same. They can not vary from them for one person or another, so to say that the agent you work with could get a different decision for the same situation is incorrect, at least in Maryland. If you do not believe the company is following the rules. Call the MIA. They will make sure they are, as in the case of the dog in the article.

 

Do a little research and learn what your are buying before you complain. How can you complain that you are not getting what you paid for if you don't know what you bought.

 

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