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Retiree couple medical tab: $158,000

Out-of-pocket expenses for retirees will go down, thanks to health care reform, but a 65-year-old couple will still need a big chunk of savings to ensure the bills are paid.

By U.S. News & World Report

Medicare helps pay for the medical bills of nearly all Americans over age 65. But Medicare doesn't cover every service that seniors need, and many people enrolled in the program still face significant out-of-pocket costs.

A 65-year-old couple enrolled in traditional Medicare, a Medicare Part D prescription drug plan and a Medigap plan is likely to need $158,000 to have a 50% chance of having enough money to pay for all of their medical expenses throughout retirement, according to a new analysis by the Employee Benefit Research Institute.

Retired couples who want a 90% chance of being able to pay all their bills should aim to save $271,000.

These estimates have been revised significantly downward since 2009's calculation, largely due to recent health-care reform legislation that will eliminate the coverage gap in Medicare Part D by 2020.

EBRI calculated that a 65-year-old couple in 2009 would need $210,000 to have a 50% chance of affording their retirement medical needs, $52,000 more than retirees will need once health care reform is fully implemented.

Nonetheless, it will still be a challenge for retirees to save enough to pay for all of their likely out-of-pocket costs.

Single men with median drug expenditures would need $65,000 in savings to have a 50% chance of covering health care expenses throughout retirement, EBRI found. Women, who have longer life expectancies, would need $93,000.

Both calculations are down significantly from $86,000 for men and $125,000 for women before health care reform was enacted. For a 90% chance of affording all their medical bills, a 65-year-old man and woman of the same age will need $124,000 and $152,000, respectively.

The EBRI analysis does not include the savings needed to cover long-term care expenses or early retirement prior to becoming eligible for Medicare at age 65.

"Many individuals will need more money than the amounts cited in this report," says Dallas Salisbury, CEO of the EBRI and a co-author of the report. "Many workers are generally unprepared for both health care expenses in retirement and retirement expenses."

Costs are likely to further increase for workers who plan to retire in 2020. EBRI estimates that men age 55 who plan to retire in 10 years should aim to tuck away between $111,000 and $354,000 in 2020 dollars for likely out-of-pocket medical costs.

Women the same age are likely to need between $147,000 to $406,000.

Most workers on the verge of retirement (62%) say they feel "not at all confident" about being able to handle health care costs in retirement, according to a recent survey of 1,020 individuals between ages 50 and 64 conducted by the Society of Actuaries.

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To cope with expected increases in health care costs, the older workers surveyed say they plan to work on staying healthy (37%), cut back on current expenses so they can save more for the future (31%) and even delay retirement (25%).

This article was reported by Emily Brandon for U.S. News & World Report.

Published Jan. 7, 2010

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1/17/2011 9:41 PM
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Hey BBall21,

I agree that we aren't all taking responsibility for our savings and health care. So there you are right!

I also don't believe that anyone that paid into ss thought that prices would rise as much as they have been or seen the destruction of the American Dream of being able to work if they wanted to. I think you may have forgotten that there are millions who have lost a large part of their retirement due to the thiefs on wallstreet. I pity the people who banked on the American Dream! I also pity the person who has no compassion for the aging society who are in dire straits.

1/14/2011 7:54 PM
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Gee, I wonder how people made out prior to l964 when the great socialist LBJ started medicare.  Back then most people just took care of their own medical bills and most could afford to before the Govt. got involved.  The same group that took over the Mustang Ranch and lost money.  Go figure.
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I am tired of seeing the same article on MSN page.  It has been on there for the last 3-4 days.  People who have retired and paid into social security all their life and have medicare have worked hard for there money just like most are doing today.  However, with the lowest paying jobs these people don't have a chance to be able to purchase health care.  I agree something needs done to help them.  However, covering illegal immigrants is wrong.  If they are going to live in this country they need to go through the proper channels to become an American citizen.  What went on in Arizona this past week is horrible.  I know that guy is mentally unstable but the Governor having to pass a law because our Federal Government would not do anything about the situation there is not right either.  Our own citizens in this country cannot afford health care and they allow illegal immigrants to have it.  Something just isn't right about that.
1/12/2011 2:17 PM
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While originated as a capitalist, profit making concept, by definition insurance is actually a socialist concept.

 

A great number of folks contribute to a huge pool of money so that when needed a few may draw from the pool to cover losses.

 

The bulk of all insurance needs to be prohibited from making a profit.

 

Having a "socialist" industry remain capitalist is dangerous to more than your wallet:  it's dangerous to your very freedom.

 

Our government is currently very influenced by lobbyists.  Insurance industry has lots of money for tons of lobbyists by simply tapping pool.  Meanwhile, because they want more profit, industry driven to reduce risks.

 

Because many activities that are pleasurable or fun are risky (freedom can be dangerous)  lobbyists work hard to gain legislation that reduces or eliminates certain targeted behaviors and as a result freedom.

 

It would be crazy to allow police and fire departments to be profit making entities, why should the insurance mega entity be allowed to be.

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Doesn't the government realize that if we spend all our money on our medical bills they will have no estate money to tax. Where are their brains.
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Wait till Boehner and McConnell repeal the health care bill. Then we should all be O.K.. Don't forget to vote Republican in 2012.
1/10/2011 1:18 PM
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This is unbelievable, but sadly true.  It is not the insurance companies we need to be targeting.  The hospital charges are what is out of control.  I had a cat scan and my out of pocket cost was $1000.00.  I have insurance that pays 80%, I was at the hospital for an hour and my total bill was over $5000.00.  It isn't just these procedures, a box of diapers for my grandson when he was born was $97.00 for an 18 pack.  No one can afford these prices with or without insurance.  We need to overhaul the charges, I understand the insurance companies charging so much, because they have to pay so much for just basic services.  Yes I also think they are over charging us as well, but we need to start at the actually costs that are being charged to us for receiving these medical services.  You go to the Doctors office, wait 45 minutes to be seen, see the Doctor for less than 10 minutes and they charge you on average $100.00 for that visit.  We need to stand up and say no, this is not acceptable, the service we receive, the time we waste trying to get to see you is not worth this much money. 
1/10/2011 12:50 PM
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"This seems unbelievable.  I was treated for luing cancer and did not pay anything."
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I'll wager the taxpayers did.
1/10/2011 12:40 PM
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All the basic info in print about US citizens retiring says that most have less than $50K saved for RETIREMENT.  Now they need another $158K-$271K just for medical expenses?  If they can't get the savings done for retirement, when are they going to get the medical done?  Seems like a looming trainwreck to me.
1/10/2011 12:23 PM
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Spent over 25 years in managed care (health care) business before I got sick.  And I really took care of myself, working out 5 days/week for over 30 years.  Now am a major user of health care expenditures-2010, Over $400K of bills and future years will be the same.  Cost to me each year is approx. $20K.  We don't have a health care system, it is totally dysfunctional, but health care reform bill starts to provide a foundation to fix it.  Without reform bill, it will get worse.  Who wants Canadian system waiting 12-24 months for elective procedures?  Stop all the political rhetoric and do something for the people in this country and allow the health care bill to provide the foundation for a system that keeps people well vs. a business that rewards providers and insurers when people are sick. 
1/10/2011 11:51 AM
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How very disheartening!  How can the average American retire if they face out of pocket medical bills such as the article indicates.  What was the purpose of the passage of Health Care Reform?

1/10/2011 11:45 AM
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The Republican party has the answer to this issue. Privatize it. Problem solved.
1/10/2011 11:23 AM
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if the health care is good why did it went thru to many backdoor,closed door meetings alleged vote buying of democrat senators and congressmen?
1/10/2011 11:10 AM
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My parents have suffered the same financial strain due to two heart surgeries.. Mind you with insurance and medicare the out of pockets expenses as well as the copay of 80-20 has cost them almost 39,000 dollars.  The bill continues to work it's way skyward with every follow up visit or visit to the pharmacy. This system has been corrupt and broken for a very long time. 
1/10/2011 11:07 AM
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Yes and for some reason people still do not see the point in health care reform.. pffh.. go figure!
1/10/2011 10:21 AM
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 Tax everyone who is profiteering from healthcare system at a higher rate to help the people who  are  being financially  drained. Esp. those making 250,000 and above. This would help.

1/10/2011 10:17 AM
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for bball21 and his friends,  as example, you pay for kidney dialysis treatment in your taxes. The dialysis program was signed into law by Nixon (REPUBLICAN) and is now a 20 BILLION dollar budget item. I don't see that in the constitution and where were you in the early 70's when this was signed into law? Can we get this item out of the budget and "SAVE" 20 BILLION? Get real.
1/10/2011 9:42 AM
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The fact of the matter is that many people can't afford to pay for health insurance because it takes ALL of their income to survive. Not all of us earn large salaries and drive expensive cars and can afford the nicer things in life. Not AL employers pay a large part of their employees health insurance coverage. If you only take home $1500 per month, it is very hard to pay nearly $1000 per month for insurance, and on top of that pay a deductible and a co-pay AND part of the prescription costs, AND have any money left for groceries, rent, and utilities.

While I agree that one should not be forced to purchase health insurance, I believe that something should be done to curtail the never ending increases in health care.

One thing that should change is that insurance rates should be based on an individuals general health condition, and not on his age and participation in group health insurance. The rates should not be less for a 22 year old male that weighs 350 pounds, that smokes, drinks, and takes drugs, than they are for a 55 year old diabetic that weighs 180 lbs, that has no other health problems, and does not smoke or drink.

1/10/2011 7:46 AM
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fact of the matter is that all we are guaranteed is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness;  i don't see anything about medical coverage in the Constitution.  if you want universal coverage move to Canada...can't people take personal responsiblity for anything...
1/10/2011 5:03 AM
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"Lots of people are going to die miserably."

I think lots of people are going to live miserably.
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