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Liz Pulliam Weston

The Basics

Are you giving beyond your means?

Don't wreck your own finances trying to save somebody else's. Whether it's giving to church or children, be sure you can afford your generosity.

By Liz Pulliam Weston
MSN Money

Many people get into financial trouble overspending on themselves. But a significant minority gets there by overspending on others.

This e-mail is fairly typical:

"My husband and I are having a rough time making it from paycheck to paycheck. We make pretty good money. We have four (adult) children and end up helping them every month. We cannot seem to make it without going in the hole in our checking account. Could you please help me with what we should do?"

The answer, of course, is obvious to everyone but the questioner.

Far from heeding basic financial-planning advice -- live within your means, pay yourself first -- some people pay for others first, to their own detriment. Examples include:

  • Parents who spend fortunes on their kids' educations but who don't save enough for their own retirements.
  • People who co-sign a loan for someone who's not creditworthy or trustworthy, but who can't afford the payments when the borrower defaults.
  • People who give away big chunks of their income to charities or religious organizations as they sink deeper into debt.

You have a future, too

I'm not the only one hearing from these people. The financial planners I consulted rattled off their own examples, from the widow whose retirement funds were squandered on her children's ill-considered business ventures to the guy who lost his house because he wouldn't consider a less expensive school for his son.

"He was committed to this private school for his son," even after suffering a big drop in income, said Spencer Sherman, the author of "The Cure for Money Madness" and a planner is Sebastopol, Calif. "Eventually, their house got foreclosed on, and they had to take the son out of the school, so (the boy) had to move and leave his school at the same time."

If you have plenty of money and choose to spend it on others, that's one thing. I'm talking about something else: It's akin to refusing to put on your own oxygen mask before helping others. You may think you're being selfless by placing others first, but you're setting yourself up for financial failure -- and you're probably not doing the recipients of your largesse any favors either.

The message you're sending

Take the example of parents who prioritize their children's educations over their own financial well-being.

"What's the message you're teaching your children?" Sherman asked. "What is the best education if you're teaching them (it's OK) to spend more than they earn?"

Parents who sacrifice their own futures often don't think through how very much this decision will cost them, planners say.

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One of planner Delia Fernandez's clients was a nurse who put two children through graduate schools instead of saving for retirement or buying a home. At 60, she turned to Fernandez to find out how she could retire.

"If she had saved in a 401k and scraped up enough for a down payment on a house, she could have had a decent retirement," said Fernandez, a planner in Los Alamitos, Calif. "As it was, we were talking about (how to qualify for) low-income housing."

The two kids she educated? They weren't volunteering any help. Even if they were eager to pitch in, though, Fernandez would argue that it isn't fair to saddle your adult children with expenses you should have saved for on your own.

And speaking of self-sufficiency: Your efforts to help may be undermining other people's ability to take care of themselves.

It's what Thomas J. Stanley, the author of the best-selling books "The Millionaire Next Door" and the more recent "Stop Acting Rich," calls economic outpatient care, and he argues it debilitates far more recipients than it helps.

"The subtle message is that the kids can't make it on their own," said planner Ross Levin of Edina, Minn. "That's an unfortunate thing to relay."

Continued: Be smart about charitable giving

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Monday, October 19, 2009 6:38:26 AM
My wife and I argue about this all the time.  Of course she saves absolutely nothing from her paycheck, more of what I have tryed to explain is our money.  Nonetheless, I am a true saver, and am not cheap enough that I won't try to help someone in need.  But I have also learned to gauge a persons true need.  I can tell when open hands become to frequent.  If we gave to every solicitation recieved we couldn't and wouldn't have enough to pay our own light bill.  We give to local scholarships and food pantry, also have donated to local pre-school programs that run on shoe strings.  These are worthy causes, not some family member that smokes and drinks then holds out the hand. 
Monday, October 19, 2009 7:03:55 AM
How about a BROTHER (Yes, blood kin, the same last name) just plain lies to you and NEVER intends to payback anything, but a token? He really needed financial help, so I was there! Now, after I'm hit hard by The Recession and unemployed, he won't talk to me...BUT he said he's "Born Again"(?) and employed.
Monday, October 19, 2009 7:48:07 AM

Great article. And a great reminder to think and re-think the giving process that comes out of our pockets. Luckily I have only myself to

give to so I don't have many of the burdens of giving that many people do.  I give but I give carefully.  Setting up specific amounts to give when I can. Tithing always 10%. But paying living expenses first and foremost.  Recently had people ask me for money and come to realize that they refused to do anything to help themselves and spent the money they had foolishly. So at that point I decided to change the way I gave to others.  A lesson learned. Without having a hard edge about my money I would have continued to live in proverty.

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:07:28 AM
My wife and I are fanatic savers but have managed to set aside a nice nest egg for our grandchildren's education.  We both have good jobs and have pledged to stop contributing to the kids education funds should our situation change.  We come first in a crisis.
Monday, October 19, 2009 8:08:06 AM
Remember, your friend through thick and thin is the money you have saved and your dog.

That's it.

Dan

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:32:44 AM

I see this all of the time with parents who think that they need to fund their children's education.  Private schools are a waste of money, and they can put themselves through college.  I went to public school and worked full time attending a Big 10 University.  I graduated in four years and at age 31, my student loans have been paid off for years and I'm saving for retirement.  My parents didn't contribute a penny to my education, which was fine. 

 

Just be responsible and stop giving your kids handouts!  Trust me, if you've raised them right they will do just fine on their own.

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:36:53 AM

We have to save ourselves before we can help others. When it comes to helping others, it's all about TOUGH LOVE! People have to learn to take care of themselves. There is no way around it anymore!

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:37:17 AM
When I was 16, my parents would NOT co-sign for my first car. I had to save up $2300 on my own and purchased a car for $5500, making monthly payments of $120/mo until the car was paid for. Would I have wanted them to co-sign for me? You betcha. I did learn about the value of saving at an early age this way, however. I would not co-sign for anyone now (I'm in my late 30s), family or friend so that I can "help" that person learn about the value of saving as well....just like I had to learn at 16 :)
Monday, October 19, 2009 8:41:50 AM
To the gentleman who loaned his "born-again" brother money, only not to be re-paid said money....write it off. This is not worth destroying a relationship over. I have "given" hundreds of dollars to needing siblings in the past and told them I didn't want the money re-paid. I did this in a giving spirit. I hope that you can repair your relationship with your brother because being owed money is not worth sacrificing that blood bond my friend.
Monday, October 19, 2009 9:16:17 AM
I probably gave me dad about $80,000 over several years.  The gratefullness lasted a very short time.  He wanted to give the money away to other relatives and be Sister Teresa I guess with my money.  He was always bouncing his own checking account.  He co-signed on a car for my nephew and didn't see the interest rate was about 29%.  Of course my nephew defaulted and my dad was stuck.  I offered to help him out and paid $18,000 directly to the loan company to pay it off.  (The car was worth way less than the loan).  He promised he would never co-sign anything again.  About three months later I find out my nephew traded the car in on another one and my dad did the same thing again.  I still tried to help him out occasionally when he was overdrawn but the last straw was when he called to ask me for $10,000, and when I declined to give him the money he hung up on me.  I haven't spoken to him since.  What always is going through my mind is "No good deed goes unpunished."  I've learned through him and others I've helped in the past that the more you try to help someone, the less grateful they are and even more is expected from you.  No more loans or gifts to friends and relatives anymore.  Learned my lesson.
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