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Donna Freedman

Living With Less

Serve America (and get paid)

Interest in working for public-service organizations and nonprofits has risen with the unemployment rate. But landing a job isn't as simple as announcing, 'Here I am!'

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By Donna Freedman
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Want to change the world? Get in line.

Teach For America is full until the 2010-11 school year. Online applications to AmeriCorps -- where pay averages about $11,800 annually -- have tripled in the past year. And jobs at nonprofits aren't as easy to get as you might think.

Here's what they're hearing, a lot: "I just need a job" and "I want to give back."

That won't cut it.

In Fast Company magazine, Nancy Lublin of a nonprofit called DoSomething.org put job hunters on notice: "Working in the not-for-profit sector is a career. It isn't a sabbatical from your 'real' job," the CEO wrote. "Please stop thinking that 'We'd be lucky to have you' when you have no experience in our world."

Yet work that makes a difference can be had, and it can be life-changing. AmeriCorps and Teach For America are short-term gigs but provide the chance to travel and to learn skills that can make the post-service job hunt easier. Here's what you need to know about nonprofit and public-service jobs before you apply.

Riding out the recession? Look elsewhere

The nonprofit sector employs 11.7 million people, or nearly 9% of the U.S. work force. In years past this sector "hired whoever they were lucky enough to get," says Laura Otting, the founder of the Nonprofit Professionals Advisory Group.

What's changed? Just about everything, including the unemployment rate.

But you can also point to President Barack Obama's call for public service, to the rise of social networking that can easily link like-minded adults from coast to coast, to a growing sense among the young that something -- everything -- has to change.

Now, just as in the for-profit sector, you'll get hired only if you can demonstrate skills, a work ethic and the ability to fit in. You also need to believe in a nonprofit's mission -- memorizing the talking points from an organization's brochure isn't good enough -- and to show that this isn't your first attempt at service.

Most importantly, you need to realize that the nonprofit field is neither a place for new graduates to spin their wheels nor a soft place for laid-off workers to land until the economy rebounds.

Small salaries, great opportunities

AmeriCorps spokeswoman Siobhan Dugan says there are three hopefuls for every available slot, despite the low pay and the fact that only some of the programs provide housing and uniforms.

However, workers can defer their student loans while in the program, receive $400 a month in child care assistance and up to $4,725 a year toward further education or student loan repayment. AmeriCorps positions are among those that qualify for public-service loan forgiveness programs. Volunteers can serve in their own areas of the country or request assignment in places they've never been, including Guam, Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands.

"But you're not going to be sitting on a beach sipping mai tais. You're going to be working very, very hard," Dugan says.

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AmeriCorps consists of several different programs, including a modern version of the Depression era's Civilian Conservation Corps. Workers receive on-the-job training in specializations such as disaster relief, elder care, ex-offender re-entry, park and trail restoration, housing, public safety, and children and youths.

That experience may look very good to future employers. Dugan cited the example of a young man who spent a year recruiting, training and managing volunteers at Habitat for Humanity construction sites, giving him "management experience you wouldn't (normally) have had at the age of 20."

Or it may simply provide focus to the worker. Shannon H., a 29-year-old AmeriCorps alum, felt "a lot of uncertainty" after graduating with a sociology degree. She spent her AmeriCorps year working in an after-school program and an elementary school in Camden, N.J. Living on the stipend was tough, but "you can handle anything for a year," she notes.

The experience took her from "I have no idea what I want to do with my life" to "I want to make a difference" and led to a return to college. Now Shannon has a master's degree and teaches elementary school in the Washington, D.C., area.

All in all, she says, AmeriCorps was "one of the hardest and most rewarding years of my life."

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:16:22 AM
Great job, Donna. A dose of idealism, with a large serving of reality thrown in for good measure! I am a volunteer with a nonprofit, and hoping to transition from my career in the "normal" business world to working with the nonprofit sector. Even with all my contacts and experience, it is not easy to do. The relatively small amount of time I put in as a volunteer is some of the hardest work I do all month. Nonprofit is not a place for sissies and benchwarmers!
Friday, May 29, 2009 10:19:57 PM
the Body of Chist is already all this and more, been the True Gods plan all along, that darn pride and independent selfish thing always getting in the way. Let go, salvation is here. Jesus saves, your family awaits.
Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:33:11 AM
Actually, you can't even get a volunteer job for some non profits!  That is how bad things have become.  I interviewed for an entry level position with a senior services agency even though I have a Master's degree.  But my "real" work experience is five years old since I have been self employed.  The interviewer said I was certainly qualified but I didn't get the job.  I emailed her back and asked if I could volunteer in the office since they seem to really need the help. I never heard back from her.  I did great work and accomplished alot in this field before I took my "mommy sabatical" and became self employed while I raised my son.  My husband, who lost his job 7 months ago, has interviewed over a dozen time in three states and nothing, even though he has tons of experience and the same Master's degree.  He also asked about volunteering for a non profit in which he interviewed and never heard back from them.  I think that one of the side effects of this economy is that people are becoming more suspicious and just meaner in general.  I don't know anyone that is working right now that isn't getting more flack or more stress from their employers.  All that my husband and I have ever done is work for non profits in mental health and social services and we can't even get in the door anymore with the offer of volunteer work.  How sad is that!
Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:33:18 AM
Ard the world, jobs are getting harder to get. You may have the experience and qualifications but you may still not get the job. To all those who have jobs now, appreciate it , work hard and grasp it with two hands. There are tons of vey experienced and qualified people out there who can;t even get a  job now. Working in a non profit organization has always been deemded low pay, lack of qualified staff and little corporate governance thus alot of conflict but do take in mind that in most countries getting into the social service industry is very easy due to the fact that not many people would consider working in it but due to current times, beggars can't be choosers. For example alot of students in China did commerce subjects such as finance, MBA, accounting etc but are unable to find a job, they would even take up waiter jobs now. Appreciate what you can find and hold on to it for dear life. Rem to budget wisely as money would be the source of most quarrels, sucicides and unhappiness during a recession. Make a time table from 8-5pm daily and follow it such as wake up, jogging, apply for jobs, volunteer, cook dinner etc. so as to set your internal clock to the same as working so when you get a job you will intergrate easily back into it.
Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:54:36 AM

Unfortunately people don't realize that  nonprofits have to watch for liabilities on their volunteers. I have found it very satisfying to volunteer and intend to do so. Unfortunately now all people are cut out to volunteer. You can not tell the people you are helping that they are lucky to have you even if that is true.

Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:22:14 AM
Why should any comments be removed, unless "foul" language was used.  Nice article, but it leads to the discussion of the new Civilian Army that the OBAMANIACS want to put in place.  That will create lots of so-called jobs.  Gotta go get those terrorist right-wing conservatives and put them in jail or camps and then there is the "necessary" reduction of people over a certain age, as they are too much of a drag on the New World Order and economy within Globalization....
Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:19:43 AM

I worked for a non-profit for three years and they were some of the best years of my life.  I loved most of my volunteers but I have to say that some of them, especially the older people, treated us like lackeys who should be grateful that they were there to help, and they expected us to slaver over the fact that they were giving two hours of their precious time every month.  There was one woman that I wanted to "fire" because she treated me horribly and she treated our students like children but because she had been a volunteer for seveal years, I couldn't do anything about it.  If you are going to volunteer, that is great, but please remember that the staff are trained professionals who deserve your respect and who have a very challenging job.  It is wonderful that you want to put in a few hours a week but the organization has other things to do besides kowtow to you just because you are giving your time.  That is not to say that volunteers should not be valued and appreciated, but volunteers should remember what they are there for-to help the mission of the organization, not to have their egos stroked.

Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:09:12 AM
This is  bunch of bull.........what we all need is a job, not running around some rain forest trying to teach someone to grow food. Let the people who feel as if they are changing a unchangible world dothis work. No one is helping me keep my head above water, why should I help anyone else.
Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:14:20 AM
Thanks for your comments -- this helps, as I have been having similar experiences as you.  I even applied for cashier's positions and was told welfare mothers with experience were also applying and would be hired over me(even though I once supervised cashiers).  When does this joblessness for the over educated and experienced end? Especially those of us age 50+? I see a generational shift here -- there's finally room for the X generation at the top.
Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:19:15 AM
Donna, Unfortunately you discourage me from even trying. By going for the catchy headline, you may be turning good people away from the non-profit sector.  You better be right in your assertions,and not be applying to the whole what a few of your pessimistic sources told you.  Otherwise you are performing a disservice to the public-- the danger of all journalists, especially bloggers.
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