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MP Dunleavey

Women in Red

Time to take money seriously, gals

Men and women tend to handle money differently, which is to say men are more likely to save, pay bills on time and live on less than they make. We can do better.

By MP Dunleavey
MSN Money

Let me tell you a story.

Once upon a time, there was a world-famous photographer. She earned a seven-figure salary from a top magazine in addition to the tens of thousands her photographs and books commanded.

Now, according to a lawsuit filed in New York last month, she is being sued for $24 million she had borrowed and, evidently, cannot repay. She is in jeopardy of losing her homes and even the rights to her own art, decades of work.

This is the true story of Annie Leibovitz, one of the most successful photographers in history.

It's unwise, I know, to generalize too much from any one person's predicament, especially an extreme one like Leibovitz's. But there's still far too much evidence that many ordinary women are handicapped when it comes to money. And it's not a price we can afford to pay.

The female financial gap

A survey (.pdf file) released last month by Financial Finesse, an employee-benefits company, is one example:

  • Only a third of women say they pay their credit cards in full each month, whereas two-thirds of men do.

  • About 74% of women say they pay their bills on time each month, compared with 90% of men.

  • Only half of women say they spend less than they earn each month, compared with 71% of men.

  • Only a third of women, compared with half of men, say they have an emergency fund sufficient to pay their bills for a few months.

Now, who knows how accurate this survey is. It's based on 3,500 men and women nationwide who wanted to take a financial education class, provided by Financial Finesse, and filled out the company's online questionnaire. It's self-selecting and self-reported.

Still, I'd wager that respondents were trying to appear somewhat financially adept and cast their answers on the rosier side of reality.

Or let's say they didn't and were trying to be as truthful as possible. Either way, the results for the women are pathetic, especially when you consider that most respondents earned between $60,000 and $75,000 a year.

Income is no guarantee of money smarts, I know (see poor Ms. Leibovitz above). But if the more financially successful women are still lagging behind in basic financial management, that worries me.

No, I'm more than worried. I'm furious.

It starts early

After reading the above study, I went looking for a clearer picture -- from someone, anyone -- of women's financial status circa 2009.

I'll spare you the regression analyses and give you the CliffsNotes version of my research (which is still in progress):

  • Women aren't taking themselves seriously as financial people.

  • Women's lack of financial skills and acumen is putting them in deep financial danger -- in the short and long term.

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And it starts early: Recent surveys of teenagers by Charles Schwab and Capital One find that even in high school, girls are not as financially confident as boys.

That lack of skills and confidence hinders women as they mature: Young men are almost twice as likely as young women to have individual retirement accounts or other investment accounts -- 21% of men versus 13% of women, according to a 2009 Schwab survey of 23- to 28-year-old adults.

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:59:07 AM

I believe the % gap is a lot larger. For one, when asking or talking to a women about over spending in a discussion group or in private they seem to be a lot more defensive. On the other hand I know Guys who will come straight out and tell you that the spent to much. And it's not the same in other Countries. I think it could have something to do with the " American Princess Syndrome". I all starts with logical thinking, which should start early in Life. Dad's stop raising doll's with boobs,

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:01:39 AM
Absolutely.  I will always respect my father because every one of my siblings received savings banks as presents, were invited to go over my father's annual reports from stocks with him and watched while he prepared his 1040 form on dining room table.  He helped me get my first job--in a bank!.

My mother also warned all of us that there would be no gravy train after college.  she would say, "I owe you an education, and that's it."

Two good examples for us all.

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:54:49 AM

I may leave a copy of this article where my wife cna find it.  We recently went on an expensive (for us ) vacation that we have been planning for over a year.  Since we began planning her income has plummeted to about 25% of last years and my salary was recently trimmed by 10%.  We have been setting aside money so we could afford to go, but my wife decided that she needed to spend over $400 on shoes, clothes, and hair the week before we left.  This was definately not budgeted.  Why do women think that spending like this is OK and or justified?

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:25:05 AM
I know this comment is going to raise a lot of hackles.  Many women don't save because so much of what they are is image.  They also don't realize the overall cost of any given lifestyle because a man...father, boyfriend, husband etc. has always been shelling out.  I'm middle aged and have always picked up the check, paid for the tickets and so forth.  Too many women think that someday they are going to find this successful executive with a great smile to take care of them.  Guess what?  A destitute  forty or fifty something woman is not that hot a commodity.  Your spendthrift ways are permanent and will undermine any relationship after a while. I'm not your father so grow up and assume responsibility for your financial situation.
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:49:45 AM
Kilikid, your post may raise some hackles, but I actually agree with you. A lot of women still want that dashing prince to come riding in on his white horse (OK, make that a white Mercedes in today's terms!) and rescue them. I've said this many times: ladies, there is no grown-up equivalent to the tooth fairy, leaving money under your pillow in exchange for anything anymore. You cannot count on marriage, your grown children, Social Security or Medicare to be a crutch. Learning about money is the hard part: earning, managing and saving it takes knowledge, discipline and planning. Spending it is important too, but that's the easy part.
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:12:09 AM
kilikid,

At least you acknowledge the reaction you are likely to incur!  Your observations are, however, almost impossible to assign to any objective framework.  Although I certainly have an intuitive feel for your arguments, I have also encountered numerous women that are far more financially prudent than their spouses.  In the end, I find it fairly unreliable to draw conclusions from just personal relationships with any real conviction.  Further, there is some empirical evidence that women are more risk averse and avoid ruinous events better than men.  In a financial sense, it would seem silly not to include this in the analysis.

I tend to agree from a historic and evolutionary perspective that men have tended to be held more financially accountable than women, which supports the notion that today's woman lags in terms of financial self subsistence over the long haul.  Obviously, when women were almost exclusively home makers, they were either not privy or involved at all in the family's financial planning.  Given the option to partake doesn't necessarily help, since if someone hands me a mop and says "Feel free to clean this up", it won't spur me to jumping into housecleaning. 

Ultimately, I believe this is one pillar in the analysis of gender roles in the context of historical tradition, current wants, and evolutionary limitations.  The last piece is one that seems to never receive any attention for fear of discouragement or loss of power/status.  However, I think it should receive the most.  It would help alleviate a lot of tensions and provide for more realistic expectations.  It needn't not close doors, but a man or a woman should not feel marginalized for suggesting physiologically limiting differences.

Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:23:56 AM
I am actually a lucky person. My wife is finacially responsible. She budgets things such as Vacations and home upgrades. and we do not do it until it can be paid for in full.
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:46:02 AM
I am blessed that my wife took the lesson not to go into debt to heart (paid for her own car/way through college).  However we differ when it comes to the short term vs long term view of money/things.  I would much rather save and do without now, and she would much rather spend now rather then save.  Our comprimise is that we created a budget that i was comfortable with her spending every penny of.  We both have things to learn, but I definitly agree that non-instant gratification (ie saving for the future) is more difficult for all of the Women in my life (Mom, Wife's Mom, Wife's Sisters, Wife). 
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:14:13 AM
This article is ridiculous.  You begin by stating that your statistics are useless. 
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:55:35 AM

If it weren't for me, my spouse wouldn't have:

- a 401(k) plan or IRAs

- savings in an emergency fund for when the washing machine breaks down or we need new tires for the car 

- longer term savings for when the car needs to be replaced.

- a house

 

Living in the moment, spending in the moment, were what my spouse wanted to do.  Longer term financial "stuff" just wasn't something to think about.  I am so thankful though that my spouse had only a little bit of debt. 

 

But then we got married, and listened to me and the financial advice I brought to the marriage.  Where did I get my financial know-how?  From my mother (that's right, my mother) who drilled into my head the budgeting lessons I needed to learn to survive.  I took her budgeting advice (pay cash, save, live within your means) and expanded it to longer-term financial (retirement) goals. 

 

My spouse was always nervous about money and finances, hated to sit down and talk about them, but gradually realized that the living within our means and savings were for OUR benefit.  We learned from each other and compromised as all marriages should do -- save for the future, but also live within the moment when you can afford it. 

 

Oh, I'm the woman in the marriage.  My husband is as budget conscious as I am, and now that he has retired is so glad that years ago we we made a financial plan and stuck to it.  He now sees his live-for-the-moment older sister in serious financial difficulties to the tune of $200,000+ in debt, and not one dime saved for retirement. 

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