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Students today, debt slaves forever

After taking out tens of thousands of dollars in loans for college, will grads really find brighter futures on the other side of those mountains of debt?

By Emily Schmitt, BusinessWeek

Where I grew up, it's in bad taste to talk about your personal finances. But with the financial woes of governments, companies and ordinary people making headlines just about everywhere you look these days, it's about time we had an honest discussion about the great big money mess of 2009.

Let's start with student debt.

For me, it was necessary to go into debt to get an education. In my undergraduate years, I tried to accrue as little debt as possible. I worked two jobs while maintaining a full course load at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. But when I was accepted to New York University to study business journalism last fall, I faced a real hurdle. How was I going to pay for it? I had no parental support and I was going into a professional degree program, for which there is little funding available from the university or other sources. With numerous hands eager for a slice of the financial aid pie, chances are slim that you'll get a piece.

A couple of months before I moved east, I examined my finances. I had two options: first, to not go to grad school; or second, to fund most of my education with student loans. NYU ain't cheap. My tuition runs upward of $15,000 per semester.

Most graduate students borrow

I was fully aware of the consequences of going tens of thousands of dollars into debt to pay for school. But with no alternatives, I took out the loans. With the stroke of a pen, I indebted myself to Sallie Mae for what today feels like an eternity. (It's actually around 10 years.)

Now multiply my experience by millions. As college tuitions rise, so, too, do student debt loads. The average yearly cost of a private four-year college in 2008-09 was $25,143, an increase of 5.9% from the year before, and $6,585 for a four-year public school, up 6.4% from 2007-08, according to the College Board. With tuition levels as high as they are, many students have no alternative but to fund their schooling with loans. Among graduate students in 2007-08, 55% borrowed money for a master's degree, and among those seeking a professional degree, borrowers constituted 86%, according to the National Postsecondary Student Aid Study.

That's just one part of the story. Students are carrying credit cards to meet other expenses. In 2008-09, 84% of undergraduates had at least one credit card, and half of all college students had four or more cards, according to the Project on Student Debt. Of course, the study doesn't say who makes the payments on the plastic, the students or their parents. But with the average outstanding balance on a graduate student's credit card sitting at about $8,000, the debt burden carried by young adults can be debilitating.

For Meghan Sharp, these statistics are all too real. The 29-year-old graduate student in landscape architecture at the University of California, Berkeley, funds 100% of her $11,000-a-year tuition with student loans. On top of that, she carries about $18,000 in credit card debt. Sharp got her first credit card when she was 18 while a freshman at William Jewell College in Liberty, Mo. Matriculating students were given information about on-campus resources, university paraphernalia and an unexpected lesson in personal finance: a credit card kit.

Still paying for long-gone items

How convenient. It's situations like this -- credit card companies plying their wares to people who typically don't have jobs or substantial assets of their own -- that should inspire fury in 20-somethings. It's part of the reason why so many of us carry so much debt. My first credit card, which I applied for during my sophomore year in college, was sent to me by the UW-Madison alumni association. Madison mascot Bucky the Badger smiles at me each time I buy a plane ticket home.

For Sharp, the available credit has been dangerous. She says she's probably still paying for things she bought when she was 22 -- stuff she no longer has. She also knows her decision to live by herself last year, paying $1,200 a month in rent, hasn't helped. "I will probably try to find a roommate or a cheaper place this fall," she says. "I guess this falls in the category of changes I'm making to deal with my debt."

To be sure, students should also look in the mirror when searching for someone to blame for their credit problems. Many make questionable choices. But not all students accrue debt to maintain comfortable lifestyles. Katie Fleischman, a third-year doctoral student in educational and counseling psychology at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, faced extra expenses when she considered attending graduate school. As a survivor of malignant bone cancer, the 28-year-old had to pay $800 a month to extend her health insurance coverage through COBRA. To fund her coverage, tuition and living expenses, she borrowed more than $20,000 during her first year in graduate school.

Unlike many 20-somethings, she couldn't forgo medical coverage. "Being a cancer survivor, I had to continue my coverage. But my health would have had to outweigh my education," she says.

Continued: Degrees lose investment value, too

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Monday, August 03, 2009 9:18:22 PM

Your situation isn't unique.  I graduated from school owing about $30,000.00 in debt, which was a princely sum at the time, only to run smack into Bush I's recession.  I scrapped by for a few years, moved to a different city, and then finally landed a good job.  I paid off the loans within 10 years.  It may be rough for a while - very rough - but you should come out ahead in the end.  Education truly is an investment worth having.  The moral of the story is never put another Bush into office, even if the office is dog catcher.

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:02:57 AM
"After all, we'll likely be the ones funding your Social Security."
That's mighty nice of you ,considering we are the ones that built your roads, schools, bridges, fed, clothed and put a roof over your head while you were growing up.
I'm at the tail-end of being a "baby-boomer". What did that mean for me? Nothing left for jobs when I graduated as the positions had already been filled, or people a few years older had more experience on their resume. I did not qualify for any "special status" school grants, and also received no parental support. I was also not allowed into the Veterinary Medicine program, even though I graduated in the top 5% of my class, because the director of the program told me that, being a woman, I would "just drop out of school to get married and I would waste the space for someone else".
At least I was lucky enough not to get pregnant in high school; back then you were forced, as a female, to drop out while the fathers of the children were allowed to continue their schooling and walked the halls clucking like little roosters.
I considered myself lucky in other ways too. Just 10 years before me, most women were expected to get married right after high school. Ten years prior to that, women frequently got married *before* they graduated from high school. Ten years before that was the Great Depression where there was little to eat, and few clothes to wear, let alone even thinking about a college education.
Before you complain about how tough "your" generation has it, maybe you should learn a little more about the history of previous generations, and maybe do a little more "growing up" as well.
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:06:00 AM
I recently had to drop out of flight school because there Bachelor degree they promised was a vocational degree and I could go no further with it. I owe $60,000 and was going to take $20,000 more to finish so that I could get out and make $15 an hour as a flight instructor. Thank you Spartan. Oh and I think it is just bad taste to bailout home owners and not students at least they can hand over their home. Even if I file bancruptcy the student loan follows me.
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:45:43 AM
I accumulated approximately 20,000 in debt to obtain my degree in Mechanical Engineering.  Now, 2 years later I earn 60 thousand per year instead of the 12 to 15 dollars an hour I would be making had I not gone to college.  The monthly payments of 220 dollars or so hardly put a dent in my income.   I agree that it's not a good idea to accumulate 70 thousand in debt to obtain a degree in basket weaving but some degrees such and engineering and nursing are very lucrative indeed.  The author of this article must have majored in something frivolous.
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:10:01 AM

Today a college degree is required for most jobs, secretaries, factory workers, bookkeepers, etc. These are jobs that used to require only a high school diploma. As far as I know, knowing how to format a business letter, handle phone calls and administrative tasks has not changed over the years. Bookkeepers still use addition, subtraction and multiplication. What possible use does a degree have for an assembler on the factory floor. Touring a John Deere plant we were told that everyone had a degree including the worker we were passing by who was dropping push rods into the block. What a waste of time and money.

 

In many places in the U.S., especially in rural areas, there are few jobs that actually require a degree. My plumber and electrician have degrees but, as far as I know, that doesn't help them snake out a pipe or install a light switch. When I worked in the aerospace industry we put a man on the moon even though 70% of the employees did not have degrees. I have lived in four states and seen many people with degrees working at entry level wages of less than $10 per hour.

 

I believe the student loan program to be a big factor in the problem. As more students are required to get a degree the colleges have to expand. Since anyone can get a loan the colleges can raise tuition faster than inflation and the students do not think about the difficulty required to pay back $30,000 in loans for a $30,000 job.

 

In short, for many jobs you have to buy them when you used to get them for free.

 

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:24:36 AM

Students should always “look in the mirror” when searching for someone to blame for the debt load. No one put a gun to our heads and forced us to take out student loans. I went to two private schools, graduating with my AA in 2002 and my BS in 2006. I funded my AA with student loans and a couple scholarships I earned in high school. My BS was 50% employer sponsored and I paid the rest with personal savings. I still owe a small amount for my first two years of college.

 

I’m 29 now and I am embarrassed so many in their 20’s believe college education is a free lunch. College is required to work in some fields and should be considered an investment. You save to buy a home (at least traditionally), so why borrow so much to obtain an education with little or no savings?

 

The notion that everyone must start school immediately, put themselves into copious amounts of debt and then get a job to pay it off is ridiculous! It is now 2009 and I’ve been taking classes in a graduate program at a private school. You don’t need to do it all at once. My endeavor has been far from cheap, but I’ve also sacrificed by working while attending college and taking breaks in between to accumulate savings and earn experience. Practical experience is also an investment that many college students forgo while attending college.

 

Bailouts should not be doled out period, especially for college students. To the author: You should be ashamed of yourself for pulling the “Social Security” card as you’re paying for that whether you like it or not. To even hint that you should get a bailout is irresponsible.

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:30:29 AM
If you want something bad enough you sacrifice and earn it, like the old days.  It took me 10 years to finish my undergrad and 3 more years later (after I had 4 kids) to get my MBA.  I'm not counting on the social security you think you might pay for my wife and I.  Stop whinning, work and go to school if you don't have the money, and get on with it, smiling all the way!  Yo sound like a victim, or someone that's entitled to something.
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:42:37 AM
I am a first generation college graduate. Both of my parents attended rural, one room school houses and my grandparents barely made it through 8th grade. When I was in 8th grade, we were required to complete a schedule for the next 4 years if we intended to go to college, in order to make sure we had the required math, science and language courses. I remember my counselor telling me specifically that because of my background (i.e. uneducated parents), I was not college material and he would not recommend me. I now know that was discrimination, but I did not listen to him and proceeded to take the required advanced courses. I graduated as a National Honor Society student at the age of 17.  I applied for college at 16 and was accepted. In light of my accomplishments, my counselor still would not sign a recommendation so I could not apply for scholarships and at 16 I could not apply for financial aid. I still went - working for peanuts, barely eating a meal every day, foregoing a lot of the fun my peers experienced. It took me over 6 years to get through, but I graduated with a degree in engineering with a couple of years of experience under my belt and very little debt. I believe the most I took out was $5,000 which I paid back. My mother (bless her heart!) sent a graduation announcement to my counselor letting him know he might want to consider another career! Love it! In light of all of this, my best education was financial education from my parents and grandparents who had absolutely nothing and still made it work. You can be either the tortoise or the hare and I chose to be the tortoise. I learned that if houses are priced at $300K and the average salary is $40,000 - the houses are overpriced. I avoided the housing bubble and lived in a tiny 500 sq ft studio for almost 7 years to save money because I saw that one coming. Live under your means. Just because you can charge it doesn't mean you can pay it back. If you can't pay for it - don't buy it unless it is a necessity. This is America. You can still have your dream, but not if you listen to every moron who only wants to suck your hard earned dollar from you.
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:51:29 AM
When are people going to figure it out,not everyone is supposed to go to college,get a trade or a job,work your way up,learn all you can on the job and quit whining about your student loans,noone said your loans would be easy to pay back,I didnt go to college and for me to read how a nursing assistant is complaining about her job being lost,at the insane hourly rate of like $29 an hour,no wonder her job went by by,$29 an hour to be a nursing assistant?Wake up people and learn how to do somethjing else ,more productive for the country if you want to make $29 an hour,not sit on your ass and work a keybpard.
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:54:13 AM

I love how so many people on this post are so smug telling us that we weren't "forced" into taking all these student loans. I am a medical student and by the time finished FOUR years of medical school after already finishing FOUR years of undergraduate getting a B.S., I will be lucky to have less that $250,000 in debt. I worked 2 jobs through undergrad, but in medical school I am in class 8 hours a day and studying another 4, so besides a small part time job it is tough to make any cash.

 

I was always told that it was not big deal, being a doctor pays well. Now I am looking at an Administration that is trying to take MORE taxes from that salary, has inplemented a FEE on MEDICAL STUDENT LOANS to help pay for their agenda's, and has openly (search for the quote, it is out there) said that they will REDUCE the the reimbursement on Medicare/Medicaid programs. For those who don't know, that means this "universal healthcare" will also have decreased reimbursements and a primary care doctor will probably not make $80,000. Try living with that debt floating over your head knowing the liberal free spenders in Washington are throwing away your only chance to pay any of it down.

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