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Liz Pulliam Weston

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What can you get for Mom's stuff?

Whether you're sorting through a dear departed's things or helping an older loved one downsize, you'll need these tips for separating trash from treasure.

By Liz Pulliam Weston
MSN Money

The dollhouse in the attic was moldy, dilapidated, falling apart. The owner was ready to toss it, but professional organizer Vickie Dellaquila thought the old plaything might have some value.

"After you've done this a while, you get a sense of these things," said Dellaquila, a former nursing-home caseworker who now helps seniors downsize to smaller quarters. "We cleaned it up a little bit and put it on eBay, and it sold for $1,600."

More often, though, Dellaquila has to convince her clients of the opposite: that the couch they paid good money for 45 years ago, for example, is not going to fund their retirements.

"Yes, it was a nice couch then, but people have been sitting on it for 45 years," said Dellaquila, the author of "Don't Toss My Memories in the Trash: A Step-by-step Guide to Helping Seniors Downsize, Organize, and Move."

Whether you're decluttering your own house, helping someone else clear out before a move or sorting out an estate after a parent dies, it can help to know what's truly valuable and what's not.

Otherwise, you can wind up dithering over every single item and never complete the chore. Or, at the other extreme, you could discard items of great monetary or sentimental value in your zeal to get the job done.

I almost did the latter. In sorting through my late father's book collection, I tossed aside a small, dusty book by an author I'd never heard of. Fortunately, my sister took a second look and discovered the author had inscribed the book to our great-uncle Harry Pulliam in 1902, the same year Harry was elected commissioner of baseball's National League. We have no other mementos of our great-uncle, so to us it was a valuable find.

Most valuable commodity: Time

I wouldn't have been the first person or the last to ditch something of value, said collectibles expert Harry L. Rinker.

"I hate seeing those big garbage bins outside homes," said Rinker, who was featured in HGTV's "Collector Inspector" series and wrote "Sell, Keep, or Toss? How to Downsize a Home, Settle an Estate, and Appraise Personal Property."

To Rinker, those bins represent haste and waste. Common household items may not seem valuable individually, he said, but together they might fetch a few hundred bucks in a yard sale or an estate sale. Items that aren't worth taking the time to sell can be donated or recycled. And even a modest household might contain objects of unexpected value.

A big problem is that people don't give themselves enough time to do the job right, Rinker said. The whole task -- from sorting through rooms, researching values and following through on sales or donations -- can take two to three months for a household that's downsizing and four to six months for an estate, he said. If you're willing to pay for help, various professionals, from appraisers to estate sale coordinators, can shorten the time involved.

Before you start sorting, though, you should understand the various kinds of value objects can have. Rinker divides value into four categories:

  • Collector value. Pieces that are in demand by collectors.
  • Decorative value. Objects people use to decorate their homes.
  • Reuse value. Items that could be sold, generally for five to 10 cents on the dollar of what they cost new.
  • Family value. Articles with family memories attached that may or may not have significant financial value.

Rinker recommends keeping or distributing to other family members any objects with strong memories attached, but he cautions against hanging on to anything simply because it was handed down to you or "because the kids might want it someday."

6 ways to spot collector value

If you're trying to determine which items might be worth selling, ask yourself:

Is it in fashion? Collecting and decorating trends change frequently. Rinker recommends perusing the home-decorating shelves at a bookstore to see what's currently hot. If a style or era isn't represented on those shelves, he said, there may be little demand. EBay Pulse or Collectors.org can tip you off to collecting trends. For example, vintage postcards and figural pins are enjoying an increase in popularity. And you can use a search engine such as Bing or Google to find out how many sites are peddling merchandise similar to yours.

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Are there plenty of avid collectors? Today's collecting trends are driven largely by baby boomers, who are seeking out toys and other objects they remember from their youth, Rinker said. Demand for older collectibles, such as cast-iron toys and Depression-era glass, is fading and is unlikely to return as their most avid collectors die off, Rinker said.

Is it scarce? The vast majority of items in most homes were mass-produced, so Rinker suggests it's better to assume an item is more common than you think. A case in point: mass-produced "collector's edition" items, an oxymoron if there ever was one. The more limited and expensive an item was originally, though, the more value it might retain if it's in demand at all by collectors. My sister's Mrs. Beasley doll, for example, likely would be worth less than her Steiff City Mouse set specially made for FAO Schwartz (assuming we could find the latter, which we haven't, alas).

Is it in good shape? If you can hold an item at arm's length and see damage, Rinker said, the object's value is diminished. If there is major damage, it may not be salable.

Is it complete? Full sets are likely to be worth more than pieces. If you have the box an item came in, you might be able to elevate it from yard-sale fare to eBay-worthy if the item is otherwise in demand. (And speaking of boxes, even an empty one can have value to collectors if it's the right packaging, such as the box for a vintage Lionel train set.)

Does it have intrinsic value? Gold and sterling silver have a "melt" value, even if whatever the metals are made into isn't in demand by collectors. You do need to separate the real stuff from items that are just gold-plated or silver-plated, however. A magnet won't attract high-quality gold jewelry, for example. Sterling silver is typically stamped "sterling" or "925," though it might be marked 800, 840 or 850. If it's a very old piece, it might have no marking at all. Rinker recommends getting an appraisal before assuming it's plated.

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Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:51:53 AM
what do any of the above comments have to do with the article that was written? i think it is important to talk to parents about which items are important to you personally and decided a fair way among siblings to handle it. Having said that, iIm sure that there are a lot of emotions running through you when going through all of this, so maybe taking some time to step away from the death is helpful before going through the house. good article. I'm going to buy the book suggested at the end of the article an send a copy to both my sisters.
Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:53:13 AM

Be cautious about being taken advantage of. A woman's son was helping her after the last parent passed away. When mom asked the

son to get the key to the house to go there he said, "Auntie....came yesterday & got the key to go clean the house." She cleaned it good, nothing was left inside the house.  I know so many people with similiar stories of heartbreak.

  Someone also might talk an elderly person out of something that was to go to someone else. It happens.  

Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:59:59 AM
Please bear in mind that prices on EBay have also crashed in today's economy.   Most of my pre-1940 collectibles won't get 1/4 of last year's price.   EBay has made too much of the same thing available, and everyone is trying to dispose of whatever they can to survive.  The article glossed over one important way to dispose of the items, even the "low end," to a good cause.   Please consider donating bulk items to a local charity, even what you might normally throw away.  Animal rescue societies,  and homes for abused women and children gladly  re-use what you might toss to the curb.  Some, like hospice, can put the items in their store.    Charitable contributions are a good way to honor the departed relatives, and save people the exhaustion of dealing with grandma's 1970s glassware.
Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:25:42 PM

Great article, Liz!

 

When my mother passed away three years ago, my older brother became instantly nostalgic and wanted me to keep everything that was in her house - and I mean everything! I live in a small, fully furnished house. In order to avoid an emotionally-charged argument in the month immediately following my mother's passing, I agreed to do so. Big mistake. Even though I know where my brother was coming from emotionally, assuming responsibility for all of my mother's belongings - including temporary storage fees - was overwhelming. I finally donated most of her belongings to the hospice service that had cared for my mom (and us, by the way) during the last days of her life. We, of course, kept the things that had deep meaning to us, and over time those items have become even more precious. The hospice's second-hand retail store was able to sell everything that I donated. That was more than a fair exchange for everything they provided to my family during that difficult time.

Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:58:34 PM
they don't mention the fact that the aftermarket values have faded to just above water levels, its the sites such as ebay and every browser on the net having an auction site the things that used to carry an aftermarket value was because the demand on a rare item, going to ebay and having access to every item that was made does'nt keep the "rare" status no longer and the values have crumbled, look at baseball cards-now a complete flop(unless you've got 60's or older), also comic books-flop, some of the titles were hard to get your hands on raising there value(ebay killed'em everywhere you look they have them). most dealers in antiques and what used to be called collectors items will only give you on average 15 to 25% of the claimed value, and the 25 percent is just cause they want to have it, not because they want to give you more, when I had my shop there was certain items you want just to have on the shelf(they're called people attractors-you come to look and you just might buy something, but that one particular item is what you come inside to see, making it worth more to the dealer). but I prefer not to talk about my parents belongings, till they're gone to hopefully a better place, they're not mine to discuss(you don't talk about how you are going to spend your parents stuff while they are alive its disrespectfull and shamefull, and that alone ends that topic for me
Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:04:59 PM

I'd say that the loss in value of pre 40's items has more to do with the fact that most of the people that would have collected them for their nostalgic value are passing on. Thus you have fewer buyers and more sellers as their children sell off the estate material. Not to mention, the primary users of eBay, baby boomers and younger, are not interested in Pre-40's items for their own nostalgia. They're looking for items from their youth. At some point that market may turn around as antiques, but it may be a while.

 

Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:44:48 PM

Mom's dead. How much is her stuff worth.

This was the title on MSN for this article! Excuse me? Does this strike anyone else as an entirely unappropriate headline? Person who came up with that one obviously never lost anyone they loved. Nice going MSN. Real nice...

Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:47:53 PM
The title is a bit over the top, but it certainly makes you want to click and read.  So from their tasteless perspective, it's a winner.
Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:05:15 PM
My mother was dying of cancer, my father was a quiet, shy man.  We had my mother go through her possessions with each child.  She put in a notebook who wanted what and if two wanted the same thing, she made the final decision and made a note.  After she passed, my father redid his will and we incorporated my mother's possession list of who was to get what as a codicil to the will.  It made it very easy after my father passed.  It also kept any in-law/spousal nastiness in check!  And it made the disposal of things not on the list very easy as they were deemed unimportant by everyone!
Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:10:10 PM
Having gone through some estate sales, 10% return is pretty accurate.  And that is for more big utilarian items like TVs and bedsteads rather than knick-nacks.  'Collectables" are rarely worth much.
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