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Is it safe to buy a foreclosure?

At first, bank-owned houses seemed like some of the best bargains in town, but then the robo-signing controversy made buying seem like a risky proposition.

By Bankrate.com

It's safe to buy a previously foreclosed-upon house if title insurance is available on it, experts say.

The "robo-signing" scandal -- in which banks and law firms cut corners on foreclosure paperwork -- caused some lenders to suspend foreclosures this fall while they reviewed their procedures.

What would happen to the buyer of a foreclosed house if the home previously had been wrongly repossessed?

As long as the new lender and new owner have title insurance, the former owner can't seize the home back. The new owner will keep the house, and the displaced former owner might be compensated with money.

"To the extent that a borrower who was foreclosed upon has recourse, it's against the foreclosing lender, and they can seek monetary damages. But the property's gone," says Mark Skilling, the chief operating officer and general counsel for ForeclosureRadar, an online foreclosure data marketplace.

"The current owner who got title insurance -- they get to keep the property. They're a good-faith purchaser," Skilling says.

Most buy from banks

That's welcome news for homebuyers who rummage through the bargain bin of foreclosed houses.

Few consumers buy houses at foreclosure auctions. More commonly, consumers buy foreclosed properties from the banks that seized them.

The term for such houses is REO, for real-estate owned by a bank. Some real-estate agents specialize in selling REO properties.

A good share of REO houses are decrepit. Many sit empty for months before they are sold, and they end up in such bad shape that they are ineligible for mortgages. Investors often buy these REOs with cash, fix them up and sell them, just like the house flippers of the boom years.

Whether bought from the bank or from a flipper, almost all REOs are listed through real-estate agents.

Armando Montelongo, the former host of "Flip This House" on the A&E network, says certain phrases in the listing -- such as "completely rehabbed" or "newly remodeled" -- are signs that the dwelling was a foreclosure and is now in good-enough shape to be eligible for a home loan.

"It's the benefit of buying an REO from somebody who flips properties, versus buying an REO straight from the bank," says Montelongo, who lives in San Antonio.

Properties with a past

However the foreclosed house ends up in a buyer's hands, issues that lurk in the property's past could "cloud title" -- cast uncertainty on the buyer's ownership rights. Title insurance protects against such defects in the title, such as undiscovered liens, forged signatures or defects in documentation.

There are two types of title policies. Lenders policies protect lenders, and owners policies protect owners. A mortgage lender always requires a lender's title policy.

Owners policies are optional and are recommended for properties that have been through foreclosure.

"From the consumer's perspective, I don't think they have a lot to fear as long as they're able to purchase title insurance on an REO property," says Ivan Choi, national default sales executive for New Vista Asset Management in San Diego. "By and large, the title companies are still out offering policies."

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There have been reports that title insurers have refused to issue policies on some homes foreclosed by lenders involved in the robo-signing scandal. Responding to these reports, Fidelity National Financial -- the largest mortgage insurance company -- issued a statement that "this situation will not have a material adverse impact on its title business."

The statement said "new owners and their lenders would have the rights of good-faith purchasers which should not be affected by potential defects in documentation."

Those "good-faith purchasers" won't be kicked out of their houses, Skilling says. He adds that Fidelity's message is that "they're still going to underwrite on REO properties."

This article was reported by Holden Lewis for Bankrate.com.

Published Nov. 16, 2010

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11/23/2010 5:10 PM
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no way is it safe under this administration.
11/23/2010 9:31 AM
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We bought a foreclosure in Florida in June 2010.  We paid less than half the build price on our 3 year old home. We did check on and obtain title insurance.  We also used an attorney to advice us through the process.  I would always use a lawyer when purchasing real estate. Do your homewrok and everything will be OK.
11/17/2010 4:17 PM
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My wife and I bought a place in Florida for my mom and brother to live in because she is on social security and he's been unemployed for 18 months.  We also looked at REOs but there's a catch that this article never even touched.  The price was good and we bidded on the house, but 11 days later we got a call back from the bank saying there is another buyer(s) and they wanted to know 1) what is the max price we want to bid up on 2) do we want to hold or 3) withdraw our bid. 

 

So you say so what?  Well, this is like playing a game of Black Jack except you don't know if there are any players and if so, how many.  Then, you have no idea if you are the highest bidder.  You might be outbidding yourself.  So we gave the bank a middle finger or 5.  We found out later we were the high bidder by a large amount.

11/17/2010 2:31 PM
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There is something wrong with this logic. If the bank didn't have the right to foreclose in themanner it did, then the bank never got title and therefore had nothing to sell. It would be ther same as if I sold a house that I didn't own, title could not pass and the buyer would have received nothing.
11/17/2010 2:06 PM
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do what i did. i purchased 2 1/2 acres. and am building my own dream home. i am in total control of the construction (except the labor) in my new home. by the time the house is finished. in about 6 months. this house will end up costing me about 200,000. but is 100% custom made and it looks better than a 700,000 house down my street. and no stress caused by the banks or nothing the only problem i had was choosing granite colors, paint, ect. bank loan me 100,000. since i paid cash for my land. my payment is 1,200 and i will own this entirely within ten years or less. instead of having my 80,000 life saving in down payment for a house i bought me a land and started my project. so far so great. you can buy land with very little money. i think is cheaper to do it this way. cause u get you money worth and is way better. it feels good.  ask around and try new options. build ur own home.

11/17/2010 12:34 PM
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This is wrong you mean if the bank made a mistake foreclosed on me and the buyer got title insurance I can't get my house back.  Man that is pure *#it, if the banks did robo signing and didn't follow the rules every house should be given back to the owner or treble damages should come in.  If house was worth $300,000 bank should have 2 months to give the original owner back the house or $900,000.

 

I am one of those people that have figured out if you are wronged don't shoot them, beat them up, just go after what it seems most people value their money and make it hurt.

 

Oh and with all those big banks doing robo signing arent following the rules how come none of their ceo's are being charged with a crime and in jail?  Man seems crime does pay, but I think a good lawsuit against the bank is warranted and remind their insurance companies they dont have to pay the bill if the bank was breaking the law.

11/17/2010 12:11 PM
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This article is WAY WRONG!  I think they better be careful giving out legal advice.  In many states there is a period of redemption.  Alabama has a one-year right of redemption.  If you purchase a foreclosure, the foreclosed upon owner has one year to come back and get their house by paying up all past payments and fees! Actually, anyone with a vested interest in the property can exercise the one year right of redemption.  A lender with a second mortgage, a person with a lien on the house (like a roofer that installed a new roof and didn't get paid or a property owner's association for delinquent dues), or a divorced spouse.

 

The worst part of this is that the purchaser will not be repaid for their moving expenses or for improvements to the property that weren't needed to keep the property from deteriorating.  If they painted because they didn't like the color, or replaced carpet or cabinets or countertops, or put in a pool, then the person exercising the right of redemption gets those improvements and doesn't have to reimburse the person that bought the foreclosure.  So, in Alabama when people buy a foreclosure they better not make unnecessary improvements for one year after the property was foreclosed AND the title insurance will reflect these right-of-redemption conditions so the title insurance company won't be burned it will be the purchaser. 

11/17/2010 10:41 AM
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The whole Fannie Mae owned home purchase process is a nightmare.  I was about 1 week away from closing, had clear title, everything was lined up until Fannie Mae pulled the plug on everything.  They said that I couldn't close due to "potential title defects" and now they cannot give me an answer on when closing will happen.  They keep pushing the date out month after month.  It makes me sick that I can't get a straight answer on anything from the gov't but I guess that's to be expected.  They mentioned to me that they might allow me to "rent" the property while they figure out issues on their end however that is a timely process as well.  I was told that I would be one of the first people to go through the pipeline for closing since I was so close and didn't fall into the category of folks that just started the purchase process but I'm getting the feeling that they said that just to give false hope since, again, the people working for Fannie Mae don't know what they are doing and have no visibility.  What a joke.  Almost all parties involved in my purchase have clearly shown their incompetance time and time again.  It's almost comical---too bad I'm stuck in the middle.

11/17/2010 10:20 AM
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I bought a house this year, and it was a short sale. If you want a good deal on a house go with Short Sales. Short Sales can be a little tricky to pull off sometimes due to you maybe dealing with multiple liens and your realtor may not make any $, but you can get title insurance. Realtors do not like short sales due to their commissions are not guaranteed. Houses that are short sale are not general as  run downed as foreclosures because the seller still has some skin in the game and will maintain (some what) the property.  Another option are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac owned properties. People need to ask their realtors about what type of sales are available to them, and if the realtors do not mention the ones above then you need a new realtor. I bought my house at 38% discount then what the seller paid for it and this was after they put their $ in to fix it up(not finished but very livable). Remember buy things low and sell them high.
11/17/2010 10:08 AM
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Buyer beware! Another thing to worry about on houses that have been flipped... Original problems in the house being hidden by the remodelling. My kids bought a house that had been flipped. They had an inspection done before purchasing the property and no major issues were found. The basement had been totally remodelled and the original problems of the foundation were covered up. I realize that unless the seller lives in the house, many issues may never be known until the new buyer buys the house and moves in. My kids found this out the hard way.
11/17/2010 9:31 AM
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The major issue is not mentioned in this article.  Most title companies have stopped giving title insurance on foreclosed properties until this issue goes through the court system.  That's the problem - you can't get title insurance; so you can't buy the property.

 

So this article is basically useless as it just glossed over the problem; but that's typical.

11/17/2010 8:45 AM
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Good advice for anyone buying a piece of property or home with a foreclosure involved. Make darn sure you can get a clear title, free of any and all restrictions. Some are being sold and it is left up to the buyer to get his own title with whatever means one can come up with.
11/17/2010 8:40 AM
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The confusion of notes and who owns them is still to be determined.  Thanks to the greed from wall street and financial institutions we find ourselves in this bleak economic predicament.  Banks make more money foreclosing than they do assisting a homeowner in trouble with a loan modification. 

 

As far as buying a REO the risk is too great.  Prices have come down so far already, it is safer to buy from a homeowner who has not defaulted and has clear title.  Opposed to a bank owned property with more liens and notes attached to any one property.

11/17/2010 5:23 AM
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Why buy any home? Buy the land and build your own costum made home. Now that's happy living!
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