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Secret cash advances worry wife

If spouses have separate credit card accounts, should they be accountable to each other? Also: How card issuers view cash advances.

By Don Taylor, Bankrate.com

Dear Dr. Don,

I found out that my husband had made a few cash advances through his credit card over the past few months, paying a $5 fee for each advance. The advances totaled a few hundred dollars. During that time, he paid down only part of his balance. I was snooping around his office when I found the credit card statements.

The good news is that our only debt outstanding is our mortgage. We've paid off our car loan, his student loan and the loan on the TV/entertainment center. So now we each have a few hundred dollars free each month. I also noticed that he finally paid off his credit card balance.

The issue is that he never mentioned that he did those advances, even though I've asked him how he is doing moneywise when we bought some items. He always said he had enough money. Now that we have no more debt, he shouldn't need cash advances.

Should I approach him on this matter? He may not like it that I found out by snooping, and he is sensitive about money issues. I don't want to sound condescending, but I don't want to worry about it either -- or find out later he got into more trouble. Should I let it go and see if it happens again? He shouldn't have any excuses for the advances now that he has more money freed up.

-- Worried wife

Dear Worried,

You should probably be writing to Carolyn Hax instead of "Ask Dr. Don" because what you really need is relationship advice, not financial advice. On the relationship side, you have to ask yourself why you feel the need to snoop. Is it a prevent defense, or are you looking for proof of some marital transgression?

It was wrong of you to snoop into his finances by going through his office and reviewing his credit card statements. How would you react if you caught him going through your bills? I'm not sure how you'll finesse the issue of your snooping if you try to get your husband to change his behavior and stop using cash advances as a source of short-term funds.

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Cash advances on a credit card are a financial warning sign that the cardholder isn't living within his means. Besides the $5 fee, the interest rate charged on advances often is higher than the interest rate charged on purchases. Credit card providers see a cash advance as a sign that the cardholder isn't doing a good job in managing credit. That can lead to higher interest rates on the credit card based on the card issuer's perception of increased risk.

Married couples don't share credit reports but rather have individual reports. Only joint accounts show up on both credit reports. If you have joint accounts, his credit behavior could affect the interest rates on your credit cards, too.

Couples have different ways of managing their finances. Some keep separate accounts, some hold their money in joint accounts, and others have both individual accounts and a joint account -- using the joint account to pay household bills.

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The only time it raises a red flag with me is if one partner feels that "what's yours is mine" and "what's mine is mine." From how you've described the situation, you've got some degree of separation in your household finances, yet you want him accountable for how he chooses to fund his spending.

Don Taylor is a columnist for Bankrate.com.

Published Oct. 19, 2009

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Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:38:09 AM
His is using the money for lap dances at the local strip club.   
Monday, October 19, 2009 6:12:26 AM
She absolutely should be concerned. If there are some separate finances within a marriage, for whatever reason, and I don't think there are many reasons for that, then each partner should know everything. To not keep this open is dishonest.

Regardless of whose name is on what, marital debt is marital debt. The marriage doesn't sound so stable; should they divorce she may be held accountable for the debts he is creating.

Secrecy in a marriage is a recipe for disaster. She should not HAVE to snoop.

Monday, October 19, 2009 6:32:59 AM
I wonder if he can get that cash advance in $2 increments for use at the local strip club, haha.

Who uses cash advances anyway...? That's a crazy amount of interest to pay for the convenience of having untraceable cash if you don't have any left in your checking account.

Monday, October 19, 2009 6:58:09 AM

I'm married and there are no financial secrets.  She has nothing to be ashamed of.  She wanted to know how they were doing financially and she knew where to find that information.  I find the idea of married people having separate accounts and secret bills disturbing, to say the least.

 

On a side note my wife usually gives me money to go to the strip club.

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Monday, October 19, 2009 7:59:39 AM
This is the common American  syndrome of the wife wanting total control of the money regardless who earns it.  I had that problem also, the wife wanted to keep her small earning and also have total control of all my larger earnings.  I finally got fed up and drop kicked her out of my life.  I recommend the same for this guy.
Monday, October 19, 2009 8:01:35 AM
Her explanation is creepier to me than his cash advances.  My husband and I often don't tell each other how we spend our money.  We aren't keeping secrets, we're just living our lives.  I trust him.  He trusts me.  Our finances are ship-shape.  I have one hidden cash stash for emergencies and I know he keeps one too.  We discuss big ticket items before we buy them but otherwise there is no particular need for us to tell each other where every penny goes.  I manage my investments, he manages his, we share the bank accounts.  If he questioned my every ATM attack or I went through his credit card statements I'm sure we could find trouble if we wanted it.  But after 30 years of marriage, trouble just sounds like too much work.
Monday, October 19, 2009 8:56:23 AM
Listen, he doesn't do it through the bank or ATM, etc because she can find out.  By taking the advances on the credit card that I assume is only in his name, keeps her from knowing.  He sounds passive aggressive to me.   She may be a good money manager, but wants to "manage" everything.  Sounds like serious control and trust issues not money issues.
Monday, October 19, 2009 9:18:03 AM
What are your financially obligations when you are married to someone?  What I mean, is what does the law/IRS do to you if your spouse gets into financially trouble?  I know someone who ended up in a nursing home, because she didn't ask the right questions.  The husband didn't want his wife "snooping" and he lost their house (the house was paid off, but taxes weren't being paid).  She had been responsible and paid bills on time, kept the check book up to date and never overdrawn.  He decided she didn't need to keep track of things and then . . . BAM!  Homeless.

Monday, October 19, 2009 9:27:07 AM
Someone should let this guy know his wife doesn't trust him.  She isn't brave enough to stand up and take the heat by telling him she was snooping into his finances, yet she obviously doesn't trust him. 
Advice for him: Leave her, she's obviously untrustworthy.
Advice for her: Leave him and find someone maybe you can trust.

Monday, October 19, 2009 9:37:29 AM
If you don't make each other accountable-then one of you is going to get hurt-my husband went on a hunting trip--however-with digging, the hunting trip was a sex encounter with a woman he met over the internet playing some type of 3D game--he was gone for 7 days and spent almost $2000. he was very secretive when he came home and I started digging-not only money he spent-but phone calls, etc--he is still in deep trouble-let her snoop---it can be hurtful but yet truthful-
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