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Bankruptcy: 4 tales from the trenches

One of the scariest aspects of bankruptcy is the fear of the unknown. These real-life stories can help you know what to expect -- before, during and after.

By Sally Herigstad
MSN Money

Bankruptcy can happen fast -- when a person is successfully sued or when unexpected medical expenses run up. Or it can happen in slow motion, when a business fails or long-term unemployment makes it impossible to keep up with bills. No matter how a person gets to the point of considering bankruptcy, the worst thing about it is the unknown.

What really happens to you when you file for bankruptcy? What do you have to do? How do you survive afterward?

Four real people, Michael, Robert, Robin and Andrew, shared their experiences going through bankruptcy. (Only Robert allowed us to use his real name.)

  • Robert Nickell, a pharmacist and chairman of the Nickell Group, filed for bankruptcy in 1999, when he was 39. He lost his business, a pharmacy in Manhattan Beach, Calif., after accumulating more than $600,000 in debt then going through a protracted divorce.

  • Robin, 31, thought she was covered by health insurance when she spent a week in the hospital after a car accident. She was mistaken. She was already in debt from starting a freelance copy-editing business; with the hospital bill, her debts topped $65,000. Then she lost her job. That was the last straw.

  • Michael practiced medicine in Oregon for 45 years. He filed for bankruptcy at age 72, when he could no longer work and had no savings to fall back on. He was going through a divorce at the time as well. He owed about $50,000 in back taxes, medical bills and business debts.

  • Andrew, 36, and his wife, Ashley, 35, owned a retail company in Colorado that sold wireless products, telephones and satellites. They had a great run with it, but between a merger and employee theft, they ran up about $300,000 in debt. They filed for joint bankruptcy two years ago.

Some aspects of bankruptcy weren't as bad as they thought they would be. Other aspects were worse. Here's how it went:

The buildup: How did I get here?

Robert, Robin, Michael and Andrew all found themselves sliding into the circumstances that led them to choose bankruptcy.

Michael had barely broken even in his medical practice for years. He had planned to work until he died, but health problems forced him to retire. His phone rang constantly as creditors sought him out. Eventually, he quit answering it. Bills were stacked all over the office; he stopped opening them. He had given up long before he actually filed for bankruptcy.

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Robin had been earning $50,000 a year at a dot-com company. One day, she came to work and was handed a box and a paycheck and told, "This is your last day." Robin moved back to her hometown and quickly found a job. She thought she was getting back on top of things, chipping away at her debt.

Then she was hospitalized, which ended her new job. She could put only a little toward the hospital bills. Living on $1,000 per month in unemployment "gave me a whole new way to look at possessions," Robin says. But cutting back wasn't enough to cut it. Within a few months, her debt was turned over to collection agencies.

Robin hated the phone calls the most. Her father advised her to not answer the phone, but even checking messages stressed her out. Most callers were friendly, but a few were ugly. "One in particular really berated me and said, 'Did you think you could spend this money and not pay it off?' It really upset me because I already did feel guilty."

Robert says, "Pre-bankruptcy is one of these very scary things where you can't believe that you got into this mess.

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"I would be in my apartment, and somebody would knock on my door, and I'd want to climb out the window because I was avoiding the process servers," Robert recalls. He likened it to the stages of grief. "You're in denial -- you can't believe this is happening to you. Then there's acceptance. Serve me papers, bring it on; I'll put it in the pile with all the rest of them."

Andrew and Ashley, who worked at their company while raising three small children, fought for more than a year to overcome their debt load. They put a lot of money into the business, which eventually failed. "We used every resource to keep it rolling," Andrew says. Meanwhile, an employee helped himself to between $10,000 and $15,000 from the till.

Andrew spoke with a couple of attorneys to see if he could renegotiate with creditors or get extensions. But the creditors weren't interested: "Creditors in general will not work with you if you have been making payments on time. They'll say, 'No, call us when you're delinquent.'

"The ball got bigger and was rolling down the hill," Andrew says. "There was lots of fear of the unknown, which I think is a big part of the bad piece. You don't know how it's going to end up, if you're going to keep your cars or your house, or how drastically your lifestyle is going to change."

Filing for bankruptcy

Michael first went to a lawyer to talk about filing for bankruptcy. The lawyer determined that although Michael had very little cash, he had assets he could sell. The lawyer advised Michael to sell enough assets to pay off his debts or at least keep up the payments.

That's not what Michael wanted to hear. By then, he wanted all his debt to be gone -- quickly. He was angry at the lawyer for refusing to help him file for bankruptcy. So Michael found a paralegal through a newspaper ad. The paralegal told Michael to stop making all payments and agreed to start bankruptcy proceedings.

Robin tried a couple of credit counseling agencies, but when they heard her numbers, they told her there was nothing they could do. Finally she went to a local bankruptcy attorney who charged a flat rate. She brought as much information as she could pull together and told the lawyer her story. The lawyer advised Robin to cash her next paycheck (by then Robin had a new job) and spend it -- restock the refrigerator, fill the car with gas, pay the rent -- because any cash assets on the filing date are considered available to pay creditors.

"The lawyer and her staff were so, so kind," Robin says. "They made the process as easy as they could." Best of all, the collection calls stopped. "As soon as you contact a lawyer, the lawyer takes over and (debt collectors) can't call you anymore. I remember that being the biggest sense of relief."

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Friday, August 28, 2009 7:39:13 AM
I wish the reporter had dug deeper for this story.  The doctor worked for over 40 years and had no savings or SS?  The pharmacist was $600k in debt?  Was this debt accumulated overnight?  Did the pharmacist not see this debt adding up over time and decide to get out before it reached that amount?  How does someone THINK they have insurance but they don't?  Did the employer not pay the premiums?  Please have the reporter ask more questions the next time.
Friday, August 28, 2009 7:57:47 AM
Having just witnessed a bankruptcy hearings as a business owed money, I came across with the opinion that the entire proceeding is a scam.  Of the 4 people having a hearing on the day, one was filing for the third time and another was filing for the second time.  Both filed almost as quickly as possible from their previous bankruptcy.  In all 4 cases it did not appear to be a result of owed medical costs driving the bankruptcy but primarily spending more than could be repaid.  I think the laws need to be changed to prevent these people from just walking away from the debts.
Friday, August 28, 2009 8:09:33 AM

Filing Bankruptcy is a current fad and seems to be the only alternative that Attorneys offer for solutions to those headed for Foreclosure. Yes, I filed more than 5 years ago-still trying to repair my credit scores and save my home now.

Do this only as a last resort-yes it will stop the Creditors calling

while you spend all your time getting your financial statements

in order. You will suffer embarrassment in front of many of your Creditors and others crowded into a Gov. room like cattle.
Too many Attorneys recommend Bankruptcy as the "only way out". Whatever
choice you make Beware of those Credit & Debt Solution Companies-most of them are rip offs and only get you deeper in debt with their fees they charge you to "negotiate" for you. Use a Certified Credit Counselor and plan on 7-10 years of repairing your credit. It is sad that Bankruptcy is the most

recommended way to save your Home (Homestead).

BANKS that made deceptive, predatory, exotic, sub-prime loans that put most of us in our current financial nightmares caused this.  We sill be seeing many Banks file for protection-but they won't be treated as cattle being led to slaughter and need ten years to recover-Gov. will bail them out again with our tax dollars. Countrywide is a perfect example-read the financials-Countrywide is very near filing Bankruptcy-I hope they do go bankrupt just as they have caused MILLIONS to be ruined. Better watch Bank of America too-they keep buying up failing lenders with their Bailout Bucks and they are not too big to fail. It is all Fraud. Oh I must send out a big thanks to Senator Dodd/Senate Banking Finance Committee !Open-mouthed

Friday, August 28, 2009 8:22:51 AM

I'd like to know more too.  How does a doctor who practiced before the profession collapsed end up in bankruptcy?

 

Bankruptcy due to medical costs scares me.  Someone who's worked and sacrificed to build a good life can be ruined at random and in a split second.  It's hard for the average person who has coverage to understand his/her plan booklet, which is about as clear as the IRS tax filing instruction booklet.

 

I think it's lame that Robert's goal is to get black card.  No one NEEDS such a card, and it's shallow and elitist to even WANT one.  Sounds like he really hasn't learned his lesson.

Friday, August 28, 2009 8:23:38 AM
bankruptcy is just legalized theft from the innocent creditor

how would you like to lose your money to a dead beat

that's the problem with people , they are so greedy they go out

and spend more money than they make . then they stiff or i like to say

steal from the people they borrowed from

that is why the usa IS IN FINANCIAL RUIN

TO MANY DEADBEAT'S THAT DO NOT PAY WHAT THEY PROMISED TO PAY

JUST A BUNCH OF LYING THIEVES

Friday, August 28, 2009 8:26:44 AM
It seems  to me the only one of these 4 circumstances that has any real legitimate reason for the bankruptcy maybe Robin.  (even though she thought she had  health insurance) We all know that insurance would not have covered the whole bill.  With these others this is just mismanagement/carelessness of their money that everyone else ends up paying for in the long run.  When will people learn to live within their means
Friday, August 28, 2009 9:20:15 AM

According to my step children, their mother is going to file for bankruptcy in at the end of September.  So what is she doing now?  She is spending, spending, and spending more.

 

My stepdaughter has told me she has stopped making payments on her credit cards, utility bills, medical bills, mortgage, etc.  And she is planning to max out her credit cards and spend every dime of her current husband's paycheck.

 

This just totally pisses me off.  Her goal is bankruptcy and she is planning to rack up as much debt as possible between now and when she files.   And have it all discharged.

 

I hope and pray the judge tells her to get a job.  I hope she is placed a repayment plan, and is told to get a job.

 

 

Friday, August 28, 2009 9:23:40 AM
It is very easy for entrepreneurs to get over their head in debt, even in a high-skill business like a pharmacy.  The pour their life's savings into it, and if it isn't in the black it can lead you to bankruptcy in little time.  One of the best benefits of bankruptcy law is that it allows entrepreneurs to start over and try again. 

As for creditors being robbed: rules weren't changed midstream.  All creditors assess bankruptcy risk and price it into the interest rates they charge.  Since bankruptcy risk makes lenders increase interest rates, I would consider bankruptcy protection to be an insurance policy any borrower of dischargeable debt implicitly purchases when taking on a loan.   

Friday, August 28, 2009 9:25:01 AM
cuminx, take some solace in this:

In bankruptcy proceedings they examine your spending patterns prior to your filing, and often times, frivolous spending like you described for several months prior to the filing date won't be discharged.  Judges aint idiots.

Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26:34 AM
Wow, common sense, or lack there of. God forbid you end up in a circumstance that leads you to no other alternative but BK. Not everyone who files for BK is a "lying thief". I had to file in Dec 2007 due to high risk pregnancy that kept me on bed rest from 7 months. Yes I had a savings, but it was quickly swallow up after 6. NO! I did NOT spend more than I had and NO I am NOT a dead beat. You sound really intelligent to make an assumption like that.
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